Israel Shooting Those Waiting for Food Aid

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  1. AFM

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    Disenfranchised from what?
     
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    "There have been no elections in the West Bank and Gaza Strip for Palestinian Authority offices since 2006, and Palestinians there do not have the right to vote in Israeli elections."

    https://www.state.gov/reports/2022-...israel-west-bank-and-gaza/west-bank-and-gaza/

    Israeli decisions and policies rule and destroy their lives, yet they have no say in any of it. Disenfranchisement.
     
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    Do all the denials, delusional comments and blatant falsehoods offered by apologists for Zionist genocide start to sound alike after a while to you too?

    I suppose that Hamas is somehow to blame for the deliberate starvation of Gaza's native residents too.

    Thanks,
     
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    Why are they not Israeli citizens? Most were born and live in Israel. As you say the West Bank, Gaza and Golan are all parts of Israel.
     
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    I'm disagreeing with you.
     
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    Maybe they shouldn't be shooting at Israelis.
     
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    I don't know. The territory known as the West Bank is under the military control of Israel as a result of Jordan's attack on Israel as part of the six day war. It could be that the territory West Bank is not considered to be part of the nation state of Israel? Israel as is the case with most if not all nations except for the US does not grant automatic citizenship to anyone born within their national and territorial borders. I suppose that the self identifying Palestinians could apply for Israeli citizenship if they wanted to. Apparently the vast majority are not interested in that.
     
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    Do you understand nothing about the history of Gaza which has been outlined multiple times in this thread and others on the same subject? It is Hamas who controls Gaza. It is Hamas who won the legislature in Gaza in 2006. It is Hamas who has violently taken over complete control of the government of Gaza in 2006. It is Hamas who has never held another election. It is Hamas who has disenfranchised the Gazan civilians.
     
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    Why do you keep posting that lie?
     
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    They are not Israeli citizens so, of course, they can't vote in Israel. Hamas murdered all their opposition and declared there would be no more elections in Gaza.
     
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    What lie?
     
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    Since there is no "Palestine" then these people are stateless? Palestine is a geographic area not a nation. It has never been a nation. It has always been governed by foreign powers until it became Israel in 1948 when the UK ceded the geographic area to the Jews. I understand that about 1/4 of Israelis are muslim. How do they differ from "Palestinians?" They are not citizens?
     
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    Color me shocked.
     
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    Their homes get bulldozed and the lands given to Israeli settlers. They get imprisoned all the time for no reason. They have no rights. I'd be pissed too.
     
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    Right right... In response to the same BS occurring in the West Bank.
     
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    A great many are considered refugees. It's crazy that there are still refugees from all the attacks on Israel starting in 1967.

    https://www.unrwa.org/palestine-refugees#:~:text=WHERE DO PALESTINE,in the camps.
     
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    What BS occurring in the West Bank.
     
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    So your position is that if people get "pissed" then that makes it okay to shoot and use violence against others??

    You can justify anything if you try hard enough,
     
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    If someone comes to your home and breaks down your door what would you do?
     
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    Approximately 20 percent (2 million) of the population of Israel (10 million) are Arab presumably Muslim Israeli citizens with full rights thereof.
     
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    beat them up in all likelihood

    But NOT kill them
     
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    Palestinians with no rights, homes being stolen and bulldozed, people being detained... you know, the usual abuse of Palestinans.
     
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    And you are ok with the slaughter of 30,000 civilians? Oh, yeah...they're Palestinians, so it is perfectly justified, right???
     
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    The PLO runs the West Bank. Israel provides security so that Hezbollah does not take over as Hamas did in Gaza in 2006.

    Complain to the PLO.
     
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    depends
     

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