Israel Shooting Those Waiting for Food Aid

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  1. truth and justice

    truth and justice Well-Known Member

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    When were these Palestinians living in Gaza and West Bank given the vote in Israeli elections?
     
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    At Pentagon press briefing.

    Q: Have you received assurances from the Israelis that they will not fire upon Palestinians as they seek to retrieve the aid?

    PENTAGON: "Our focus is on delivering the aid. I'm not going to speak for the Israelis."

    Yep, that puts those who think Israelis weren't shooting civilians trying to get food on the side of looney toons.
     
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    If I remember correctly you claimed that IDF's "kill ratio" was 1:1 meaning one civilian to one Hamas member.

    That would mean that IDF has killed over 30,000 Hamas members which is absolute nonsense.

    Netanyahu and his genocidal right wing extremists are no different from the early Jewish criminals(1) behind the Holodomor.

    " Newborns die of hunger and mothers struggle to feed their children as Israel’s siege condemns Gazans to starvation"
    https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/06/midd...arvation-siege-mothers-babies-intl/index.html

    EXCERPTS "Health workers say they cannot offer life-saving treatment to malnourished Gazans because Israel’s bombardment and siege has crushed the medical system.

    UN experts accused Israel of “intentionally starving” Palestinians in Gaza.

    The babies of thousands of women “who are due to give birth in the next month in the Gaza Strip are at risk of dying,” the UNICEF State of Palestine Humanitarian Situation report said on Tuesday. At least 5,500 pregnant women “do not have access to prenatal or postnatal check-ups because of bombings and need to flee for safety,” the report said."CONTINUED




    (1). "Stalin's Jews"

    "We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish"
    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3342999,00.html

    EXCERPT "And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people.

    In 1934, according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of Jewish origin. They too, of course, were gradually eliminated in the next purges.

    Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity. We'll mention just one more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD's special department and the organization's chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist."CONTINUED
     
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    AFM Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your recollection is incorrect.
     
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    Any time they choose, I imagine. Gaza is not a country. It is part of Israel. Israel allows them to live there an self govern. They aren't very good at self governance, obviously. That Gazans choose live there rather than in Israel proper is a mystery to me but I'm not filled with religious hatred.
     
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    Do you actually have any knowledge on this subject? They not given the chance to vote. They have never been given the choice of where to live.
     
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    Yes and I understand that you are wrong. They elected Hamas. There have been no elections since.
     
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    When the Palestinians chose to turn away from terrorism and genocide, they will be well on their way to a better life.
     
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    Hamas is not an Israeli political party
     
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    Hamas is a terrorist organization sponsored by Iran which won the legislative branch of the Gazan government in 2006 after Israel left Gaza in 2005 and then took control of the Gaza Strip in a violent coup. There has never been another election in Gaza since.
     
  11. truth and justice

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    What has that got to do with the claim that Gaza is part of Israel and that Palestinians can live anywhere in Israel?
     
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    On Post #320, you wrote:
    "They aren't. As I have shown previously the ratio of civilians to terrorists is well under 1:1 which is better than any other war. The IDF is the most moral military organization involved in a shooting war in the history of the world." (by "AFM")

    In Post #328, I wrote:
    "If I remember correctly you claimed that IDF's "kill ratio" was 1:1 meaning one civilian to one Hamas member.

    That would mean that IDF has killed over 30,000 Hamas members which is absolute nonsense.

    Netanyahu and his genocidal right wing extremists are no different from the early Jewish criminals(1) behind the Holodomor."
    (by "Grau")


    It now obvious that I did understand you correctly which means that your claim of a 1 : 1 "kill ratio" is typical dishonest Israeli propaganda.

    Even the blatantly pro Israel Wikipedia cites a civilian kill ratio of about 20 Palestinians killed for each Israeli on 7 October 2023 and with about Palestinian body parts buried under rubble, Israel's kill ratio is even more damning:


    "Casualties of the Israel–Hamas war"
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Israel–Hamas_war

    EXCERPT "As of 5 March 2024, over 31,000 people (30,228 Palestinian[1] and 1,410 Israeli[9]) have been killed in the Israel–Hamas war, including 94 journalists (89 Palestinian, 2 Israeli and 3 Lebanese) and over 136 UNRWA aid workers." CONTINUED


    Unfortunately for Netanyahu's shills and their pro Israel MSM, the truth about the sadistic Gaza genocide is eluding the usual censors via social media and the world is seeing undeniable Zionist genocide in action.

    So much for "the lessons of the Holocaust"
     
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    Gaza is not part of Israel. Who is claiming that non citizens can illegally enter Israel and live where ever they want?
     
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    And I have followed up by defining what "well under" means by referencing that Hamas admitted that most of the deaths are Hamas terrorists in their response to the 2009 Goldstone report.
     
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    Perhaps you should read the post I quoted?
     
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    Gazan civilians have never been citizens of Israel. When Israel left in 2005 Gazan civilians identified as Palestinian citizens. They voted once and Hamas took of the Gaza Strip.
     
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    Which bit of read the post I quoted do you not understand?
     
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    I am giving you accurate information.
     
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    Baghdad is the capital of Iraq
     
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    Why do they have to have the right to vote?
     
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    Do these Palestinians live in Israel and is Israel a democracy?
     
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    Obviously. Was that intended to relate to my post?
     
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    Yes it is. You said that Palestinians are Israeli and can live where they like in Israel. Why don't you explain how these Palestinians can vote in an Israeli election and how they can move to places like Tel Aviv.
     
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    Only citizens of Israel can legally vote in elections in Israel.

    What is your point?
     
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    "democracy" doesn't always mean everybody voting
     
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