Attempted Suicide Rates More Than Double After Gender-Reassignment Surgery: Study

For the first study, I'm using the same link that is in the OP article. As I've stated several times. That's my source. Yes, you missed it. As for the second study, I provided a link. Yes, you missed it. But, admittedly, it wasn't a very good link, so I just recently provided a better one.

 

Sorry I don't you how ever seem uninterested in helping them if it doesn't benefit the medical industrial complex to the tune of several million a year aggregate.

 

You have no interest in helping them. You are fine with the government using their authoritarian power to stop patients, their guardians (in the case of minors), and their doctors make their medical determinations.

You have no interest in their health. You seem uninterested in addressing them in any way that doesn't benefit the far right nanny state.

 

What disposes you to image that medical expertise, as represented by the American Medical Association, the American Psychiatric Association, etc., is inferior to that of authoritarian politicians with no medical qualifications?

Do you suspect that other medical disciplines - cardiology, oncology, gastroenterology, etc. - are also "based upon politics"? (I recognize that politicians' positions are "based upon politics.")

Of course, medical science is continually advancing, based upon research and the analysis of accrued data:

A narrative review was undertaken evaluating suicide-related outcomes following gender-affirming surgery, hormones, and/or puberty blockers. Of the 23 studies that met the inclusion criteria, the majority indicated a reduction in suicidality following gender-affirming treatment; however, the literature to date suffers from a lack of methodological rigor that increases the risk of type I error. There is a need for continued research in suicidality outcomes following gender-affirming treatment that adequately controls for the presence of psychiatric comorbidity and treatment, substance use, and other suicide risk-enhancing and reducing factors. There is also a need for future systematic reviews given the inherent limitations of a narrative review. There may be implications on the informed consent process of gender-affirming treatment given the current lack of methodological robustness of the literature reviewed.
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Any such data must include studies that find gender-affirming surgery to be efficacious, of course;

BOSTON, April 28, 2021—A new study published today in JAMA Surgery found that gender-affirming surgery is associated with improved mental health outcomes among transgender people. The study was authored by researchers at Harvard Medical School, Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, The Fenway Institute at Fenway Health, and the Department of Psychiatry, Massachusetts General Hospital. It is the first large-scale, controlled study to demonstrate an association between gender-affirming surgery and improved mental health outcomes and adds important new knowledge to the field as there is little high-quality evidence regarding the mental health effects of gender-affirming surgery.
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I don't think that politicians' agendas should be allowed to pervert medical science in any medical discipline.

 

Oh.. now we have to start going around the globe, or biblical times attempting to showcase supposed persecution that justifies US social and political agendas. Very telling.

Because I, like many people, don't believe mutilation of children or chemical treating is "caring" at all, which brings us back to the study in the OP.

Is it actually helpful? Is it the right treatment based on facts?

 

So, if the AMA or Physchiatric Association found willing patients that wanted to have experimental lobotomies performed on them, or electro shock therapy.... which often resulted in death, it shouldn't be questioned or challenged?

Careful here, there is historical precedent.

 

Define mutilation. Would you say that the removing of any healthy tissue for reasons other than threat to health or life would be mutilation?

 

Electro shock therapy is actually still in use. Not for all the things that it used to be used for, but it is still in use.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/electroconvulsive-therapy/about/pac-20393894

 

Yes, here I am, amongst a distinct minority.

 

You're right. That's why I used the word correlate. English is my primary language.

So my mind is not yet made up, but the correlation does contribute to the mounting evidence showing aluminum and mercury adjuvants to be quite harmful to humans.

 

Of course not. I have a healthy skin tag on my leg that needs to be removed. Or removal of excess skin following dramatic weight loss, or for cleanliness or hygien purposes.

Cutting off healthy skin for mental health... that doesn't make sense.

 

Simply because something doesn't make sense to you, does not mean it doesn't make sense.

But let's take it a step further. Do you feel it makes no sense to use drugs to treat various mental health issues?

Also you failed to define mutilation.

 

No, it just doesn't make sense. We gotta stop with all this subjective, shades-of-grey, alt-facts way of thinking. It's detrimental to society.

For example, lets assume some person believes in their head that their legs are damaged and do not align with their mental state of a disabled person. Should we allow doctors to just amputate their legs in the name of mental health? Should insurance pay for it? Should children be allowed to make that decision?

its all silliness.

Sometimes.

Certain situations.

The world is not black and white to serve your argument.

Do i think its acceptable to prescribe opiods to treat withdrawl and addiction. No.

Do I think it's OK to prescribe Xanax to address anxiety and panic attacks. Absolutley.

I'm sure you have access to a dictionary.

 

And yet you argue later in your post that it's not black and white. Reality is there is far more that is subjective, even if a given view is collectively held by a given society or segment of society, while not held by others.

What makes this all the more interesting is that amputation is actually used with the most extreme cases of body dysmorphia, and has worked. Again, it's only the most extreme cases, but that still parallels with the fact that not all GD cases need to go full out with GCS. As far as children, surgery is only an option in....oh what a surprise....the most extreme cases. And even in the normal cases that warrant performing GCS, the process takes years and the actual surgical part is towards the end, such that even trans kids starting the overall process in their mid too late teens end up not getting to the surgical part until after they are adults.

And here I could have swore that you said it's not subjective and shades of grey.....oh wait...you did.

And yet at one point we did think it was acceptable and even beneficial to do so. And we then learned better. Just as we learned better with GD treatment and what and how to do it.

And again, that wasn't always the case. Pointing out where we did things one way, and then discovered a different way that worked better, only highlights our treatment of GD. And I fully believe that eventually we will discover a way to align the mind to the body without the damages that current attempts to do so cause. But until then, we go with what actually works.

Indeed, but violent and disfiguring are very subjective terms, so what I want is your definition.

 

Between the two of us, I'm the ONLY one who has been willing and able to discuss the study in the OP. Feel free to rectify that at any time.

 

Why did so much of the Left eagerly join in on the destruction of all these children?


Suicide Risks 1200% Higher After 'Gender Affirming' Surgery

'Latest NIH study: kids have a 12x HIGHER rate of suicide after surgical transition. This is a scandal. We were lied to. Children died as a result. People need to go to prison.' https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38699117/

 

The last time I reviewed a claim like this, it ended up being complete bull ****. The fact that your source had to LIE about it being an "NIH study" is not encouraging. And, yes, that was an outright lie on their part.

 

The study only involved people between18 years and 60, so let’s stop lying about ‘kids’ to start with. Secondly, the part highlighted in blue in your post says ‘suicide attempt’ not ‘higher rate of suicide’, so that’s a huge exaggeration. Thirdly, let’s not ignore what the authors pointed out, which is:

“Although our study has revealed a statistically significant increase in suicide risk among those who have undergone gender-affirming surgery, it remains vital to recognize and support the positive impacts that these surgical interventions can have on the lives of transgender individuals. The results of a study by Park et al., published in October 2022 in the Annals of Plastic Surgery, provide a different perspective on the enduring effectiveness and consequences of gender-affirmation surgery [20]. While our research specifically examined the risk of suicide, death, self-harm, and PTSD in the five years following surgery, Park et al. surveyed the outcomes of 15 gender-affirming surgeries over a more extended period. Their results reveal an improvement in patient well-being, with high satisfaction levels, reduced dysphoria, and persistent mental health benefits even decades after surgery. Notably, the study highlights the durability of these positive outcomes and significantly reduced suicidal ideation following gender-affirmation surgery.”

 

Dig Deeper.


What do you think "deceased" means?

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...icide-attempt-for-adult-transgender-patients/

 

You are repeatedly conflating suicide with attempted suicide. Even the article you linked to is titled “New study finds 12-fold higher risk of suicide attempt for adult transgender patients”

It is patently false to keep stating that “children” have a “12x higher rate of suicide” when the study only involves people aged18 to 60 and the 12x number refers to attempts not deaths. You are misrepresenting the study and that is clear.

The conclusion of the study is:

“Gender-affirming surgery is significantly associated with elevated suicide attempt risks, underlining the necessity for comprehensive post-procedure psychiatric support.”

 

Fake News. The title clearly states Suicide ATTEMPTS.

But, deaths are up too, which isn't the surprise to you that you are pretending it is.

Further, I already shared this with you and asked you what you think "deceased" means, and I see you failed to answer. Interesting.



Unsurprisingly, as Americans become better informed, their views align with the most sensible in society.

'A 2024 poll of 1,600 registered voters revealed a majority of persons across the political spectrum now support state laws that would require children to wait until age 18 before they can receive transgender treatments: Republicans: 73%; Independents: 71%; and Democrats: 61%.'

' 67% of voters supported laws that prohibit minors from being put on cross-sex hormones and undergoing sex change surgeries. '

Enough with the public school grooming.

'The survey also found that voters overwhelmingly opposed the creation of independent health centers in schools that promote cross-sex hormone therapy and other transgender procedures.'

'Another question asked about a case in Michigan where school officials are alleged to have treated an 11-year-old girl as a boy without parental knowledge or consent. Sixty-four percent of those surveyed said the parents were right to sue the district over the incident.' Only 24% supported schools keeping secrets from parents.

Expect to find the circle of folks who agree with you to continue to shrink as more evidence of the madness and destruction some elements of the Left, in collusion with public schools, and some money-grubbing doctors have subjected our children to, becomes ever more undeniable,

 

Why are you still trying to pass this off as an NIH study after being corrected? It is not. Please stop copy/pasting that lie you've been told.

 

Progressives will probably continue to fund illegal basement child mutilation operations even after we ban them as a country. They seemed obsessed with providing avenues for mentally ill / struggling children to have their hormones or body mutilated

 

They know that the answer to both questions is "No."

I've seen indications that a significant percentage of the young children "transitioning" are on the Autism Spectrum or have other serious psychological disorders.

First they are not "transitioning"; boys are not coming "girls" and girls are not becoming "boys", all that is occuring is sexual organs and functions are being mutilated at great profit to the corrupt and with great harm to the young people being "affirmed". And once again we have an element of the Totalitarian Left naming slicing the breasts off young girls as "affirming".

We have a portion of the Left that is constantly push, ramming, slamming their latest perversion down the throats of Americans, and in league with a corrupt medical community and a corrupt school system enabled by judges as crooked as Juan Merchan who is helping Bragg fix the Trump trial.

We have a lot to fix in this country, and the person who has taken on these people the most successfully and effectively is Ron DeSantis. He'd be my pick to go after this vile blob. Unfortunately, it looks to me like he got taken out by the 6 week abortion thing. We have to pick our battles. A politician's first job is to get elected, if they want to pursue solutions via elected office.

 

I think a little bit of reality is in order here.

Mental illness refers to a wide range of mental health conditions that affect a person’s mood, thinking, and behaviour. ‘Gender dysphoria’ which refers to the distress/unease caused by a mismatch between a person’s biological sex and their gender identity is not considered a mental illness. I am pretty sure, judging by your comments, transgender issues cause you distress/unease —- does this make you mentally ill?

Transgender issues are no longer recognized as mental or behavioural disorders.

Transgender individuals, including children, often experience unique challenges that contribute to mental health issues including stigma and discrimination, and barriers to appropriate healthcare.