Abortion. Holocaust or Healthcare?

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  1. Mrlittlelawyer

    Mrlittlelawyer Member

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    Wonder what they called em before the fancy word "fetus" came around huh?
     
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    So unfortunate...I said I was tired of you putting up argument that have already been refuted. What you don't understand is that we do understand ans think it gross sickening and wrong that a woman's rights over her body are so important when put up to another life(because a fetus is alive)! You keep getting the same reply because you keep bringing up an argument that has already been refuted with that reply! There is hardly anything new to be said at all. at this point the choice is so simple! Life, Liberty, the pursuit of Happiness or otherwise known as freedom, Death under decision, Slavery under others, Pursuit of the wind which you think will give you happiness! Fetus is alive by all signs of life we have on earth to tell. Life is protected and sacred. And so "Healthcare" IS Holocaust and this IS the decision. Death permitted by the state(as one abortionist put it) or life given by our creator an unalienable right. Though it would be hard for those impregnated by rapists and hard for those who find becoming pregnant an inconvenience this is the cost of freedom. "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." -Thomas Jefferson. You try to take away the right to life you lose all other rights. Any government that supports this belief and system is called tyrannical. SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS!
     
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    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The fancy word "fetus" came around quite a while ago:

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fetus?db=dictionary
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You have stated your opinion but not defended or validated that opinion with a coherent argument.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The problem is that you can not defend your rational with a coherent argument that can withstand critique.
     
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    OKgrannie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A fetus doesn't have, and never had, a "right to life." It doesn't have a life of its own, it only has the life the woman gives it. Tyranny would be forcing women to do something, allowing them to do something would not be tyranny. Government has tried to eliminate abortions before and failed, and another attempt will fail as well. It would fail because women are in charge of pregnancy and they will decide individually regardless of government.
     
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    prometeus Banned

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    So you prefer ignorance over knowledge, no surprise there...
     
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    The problem is that you cannot recognize the logical failure of your arguments and the fact that I have already defended my assertions successfully!
     
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    WOW, this is extreme delusion!

    The entire post is false.
    Fetal homicide laws are OBVIOUSLY written to recognize the right to life of a fetus and the unborn Victims of Violence Act a FEDERAL LAW does so as well.

    What color is the sky on your planet?

    BTW all people who commit homicides likely do it even when it is legal and pay no attention to the law, that is no justification to allow it!
     
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    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    You are the queen of Irony!
     
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    As opposed to you being the queen of ignorance?
     
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    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    See what I mean. Keep em coming. :laughing:
     
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    Fail.

    The term fetus was never intended to define what is or is not a human being. It's simply understood that a baby in the womb is a human being. The term fetus simply designates a certain span of time during pregnancy and nothing else.

    So once again, the left is using these terms out of context to try and justify their stances.
     
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    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is not "simply understood" at all. There are many theories about when the status of human being is established, from conception on one end of the spectrum to some point after birth on the other end of it.
     
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    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    You are right, that knucklehead might as well have said "a toddler is a toddler, not a human being".
     
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    All that claim a fetus is not a human being are poorly reasoned and aimed solely at justifying abortion homicides.
     
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    All the claims fetuses are "human beings" or "persons" are poorly reasoned and aimed solely at justifying anti-abortion legislation.
     
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    OK. So what IS a human being? What criteria do you use to define what a human being is and what makes that criteria the ABSOLUTE that all must abide by?

    No, that is just religious ignorance.

    OK and you already said that.

    Really, it is always the left not the religious right.
     
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    Then why don't you offer you well reasoned explanation what a human being is and why we should abide by it.
     
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    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because what scholarly debate for all time has never determined, YOU KNOW with certainty. You should get the Nobel prize or something.
     
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    OKgrannie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL, I vote for "or something."
     
  24. Whaler17

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    Absolute BS. Even Roe recognizes that a fetus is a human being by prohibiting the killing of them after a certain age (arbitrary as it is). Furthermore a federal law recognizes ita s do more then two dozen state laws.

    It is obvious where the failed rationale is, it is with the pro abortion folks like yourself.
     
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    It is obvious to all including those desperately seeking a rationale for allowing the premeditated slaughter of children in utero ( they are a blatantly dishonest bunch). That is evident to every honest person with an IQ over 25.
     

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