Run along to the conspriracy forum little one, or there is always Stormfront. You will find many of like mind. On a real forum though, those statments reflect the hallmarks of anti-semitism.
I beleive that there is no moderate interpretation of zionism on this forum. Zionism is demonized in its entirety. It is used interchangeably with jews (see Krews post above in which he refers to "yet another Jew scam").
Some may well use 'Zionism' and 'Judaism' interchangeably, as you suggest. However, anyone with an ounce of brain-matter understands the difference between a political movement, the former and a faith, the latter. You will also find Jews and others on this forum who either don't know how to differentiate between the two, or conveniently cry 'Jew-hater' simply because the Israeli government's party line is predominantly Zionist in nature and there happens to be a majority of Jews in the Knesset. That position is no less absurd than calling someone 'anti-Catholic' if he condemns the Italian government, for example, for some wrongdoing.
I agree that in a perfect world people would differentiate between individuals and desist from demonising others. But this is not a perfect world. You can imagine that differentiating between anti-semites and persons with political criticism of a system is a subjective matter. As such, there will never be one single truth.
Biblical Hebrews/Israelite mutated to quasi/spuedo Jews , are very likely to have been the first people with a recorded history of "demonising " everyone else - read yr bible. What's good for the goose ...... Ta-Ra .. ....
Is "Israel " mentioned in - Herzl's "Der Judenstaat" , - the bible of Zionism ? IMO - Zionism , like Communism , Fascism + a few other "isms " - started + sounded fine /high minded , in theory , but later proved to be bloody awful in practice.
Stormfront ? WOW ! hallmarks of anti-semitism- double WOW! How would "a real forum " get along withut such lame-brain responses. - ...
Jews are no better or worse than anyone else. In terms of acheivements they rank highly but little higher than other ethnicities. The scots for example lead the world in a range of historical acheivements and remain prevalent in a wide range of features of western society. Currently germans are the worlds best high tech exporters. They may think theyre chosen but they would wouldnt they? Just like Mormons think theyre pretty special too. I suggest you all put down your strong opinions right here right now and instead worship at the feet of the scots race. After all, we have poetry and literature you can all access easily being mainly english speakers - leave the jews to their own business.
The Jews were Chosen by the People of the United States of America. The closest thing to God on Earth this planet knows.
Ah silly silicon. The very thought of americans as being somehow likened to God is truly mirthful. Kudos for lightening my day.
Like everyone else ? Oy-vey ! . Bo-Rat, + co., would rather wish us to acknowledge Jewish " super intelligence + superiority" Israeli children are'nt taught to be like "everyone else " - certainly NOT like Palestinians. G-d forbid . ....
Israel has all kinds of different children with different parents who have different political leanings. It is thus incorrect to generalize in such a matter. Your argument does certainly apply to some, but not all.
Indeed, they were chosen to lead and share the message of God not to keep it to themselves, it is a difficult task not ane easy one.
Chosen people of God. Yet they still need bullets and bombs to achieve their goals... Just like every other war-like peoples, including large sections of Islamic society, right wing American society and so forth. In the bible, there are many instances of God intervening in favour of the Israeli's, so why does Israel need one of the most advanced war machines on Earth again? Can any chosen people answer this question please, since your superior intellect might have a better understanding on this than my non-Jewish brain. Thus, my belief concludes, either there is no God of Israel, no God of the Jews, or if there is or was, the Jewish people have lost favour with their God, because surely if the God saw his chosen people besieged by "evil" nations, he'd simply smite them.....
Chosen by God...what a crock of horse-chips! Listen to yourselves...anyone who is arrogant enough to actually believe this drivel is ... IMO ... dumb as a plank. Yet it is one of the major excuses given for Israel's actions. If this Jewish God exists...he and I are gonna have a long talk when I die...
You mean by nearly exterminating/slaughtering the indigenous Canaanites .Philistines - and those who knew no better than to worshipped - "other Gods " ? and let the barbaric Hebrews at the same time rape Pagan women and steal the land of Canaan ? then calling it "Israel" Judah- etc,.etc, The god of the Jews is a truly cruel and wicked god. Frankly , I'd rather wish to follow the teachings of Buddha or Jainism. .....
Perhaps, it might have something to do with the bigotry of the anti-Semites who loathe Jews, Marlowe (?). After all, Jews are not a universally loathed and disliked people. Well, Muslims are told in Qur'an III:110 (below) that they are "the best of peoples": Why don't we find you whining about that arrogance/supremacism, Marlowe? Got a bad case of selective outrage?
Talon , As Winston Churchill once said abt the Jewish paradox , "SOME people like Jews and some do not He went on to say : "And it may well be that this same race may at the present time be in the actual process of producing another system of morals and philosophy , as malevolent as Christianity was benevolent, which, if not arrested, would shatter irretrievably all that Christianity has rendered possible. ][B]It would almost seem as if the gospel of Christ and the gospel of Antichrist were destined to originate among the same people; and that this mystic and mysterious race had been chosen for the supreme manifestations, both of the divine and the diabolical. cheers, (I think the time Churchill refered to was rising Communism + Jewish Communists) However , others can no doubt see it in Israeli Zionism today. ) btw - I've encountered no problem with British Jews - secular Jews are indistinguiable from other non-Jewisj citizen and the beared guys with curls Hasidic/Haredi/Chasids , wotever , - keep to themselves/isolated , apparently also keep away/rare contact with other Jews . I care sod all for yr quran quotes , my Palestinian friends are are NOT muslims . . .....
You didn't answer the question at the end of my post, Mr. Selective Outrage. How 'bout quoting Churchill's observations on Islam and Muslims, while you're at it?