Hitchens' Death Will be Closely Watched

Yes it is.... so what is the point that you are trying to make this time?

 

If deathbed conversions are possible and allow one to go to Heaven, then God is crazy immoral.

How can it be moral for someone to be able to convert on their death bed even though they've been something like a child-raping murderer and go to Heaven and then someone who is good and has never hurt someone but is an atheist goes to hell?

 

Yup, pretty much.

The problem is that theists must relate to atheism as they do religion, hence their need to refer to atheism as a religion (like how not playing guitar is a talent) and debate as if it were some supernatural belief. The same thing is happening in this thread.

Very few people care if Hitchens himself as a person is an atheist, he has made his money and his notoriety from his ideas not his name.

 

You must be a big fan of the Argument from Authority fallacy.

If Hitchens converts, it won't say one thing one way or another about Atheism. The only thing it will show is that people often make illogical decisions in life-threatening and highly emotional situations.

 

That I am here to debate people whose views differ from mine?

 

Ah, the classic Catch-22!

 

Agreed.

I'm not sure the posts in this thread necessarily bear that out. It seems almost to man that they care very much.

 

That is no doubt. You do seem to enjoy getting involved in 'arguments'. As shown above.... pointless arguments.

 

I do not recall asking for your appraisal of my activities on this site. But since you brought it up, you noting my alleged propensity for pointless arguments is good comedy as you would win the gold medal at the pedantic olympics.

 

Not in the least. Hitchens' death, even if he did convert on his death bed, will have no impact whatsoever on the trend towards atheism in the west. People will still abandon Christianity in numbers every bit as high as they have when he was alive. You dramatically overstate the importance of Christopher Hitchens, or any other popular atheist. Atheism is not a charismatic movement driven by a few personalities, it's a personal rejection of religious nonsense by an increasingly less dogmatic society.

 

That particular line of reasoning is one that I would think religious folks would do their best to quash. It really indicates the irrational and purely emotional basis for religion--that it'll only be accepted once reason fails a person.

 

Atheists, if you do not care if Hitchens converts on his deathbed, why are you even responding to this thread?

Methinks you protest too much.

 

Oh well. This is a forum for debating which includes the submission of opinions. So if you don't want to hear the opinions of other people, then you know where the door is.

As I have said before, I like it when people make reference to my pedantic behavior. It points out to everyone who is knowledgeable of the Bible that I am doing as instructed... "Mar 10:15 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein." Thank you for the compliment.

 

It'll be watched by many atheists to make sure Christians, who aren't even there, can't claim another death bed conversion, like Christians who weren't even there claimed that Darwin converted on his death bed.

 

The same reason people slow down to gawk at car wrecks.

 

Because this is a God(*)(*)(*)(*) debate forum, maybe?

 

Er, by care I mean him as a person isn't what made him famous in the way he he is, his ideas did. I certainly don't mean that no one cares for Hitchens or his health.

 

Its an online debate and I am killing a bit of time before leaving for a hunting trip.

No vast conspiracy to be had.

 

Right, and if Christians aren't allowed to watch Hitchens die then we will have grounds to accuse atheists of covering up the truth.

 

You guys are owed NOTHING in his death. It's not your death, it is his. He can die surrounded by whoever the (*)(*)(*)(*) he wants.

 

I have just finished viewing numerous websites about Charles Darwin's death and rumors of a deathbed conversion.

Here is a very emotional atheist website:

http://www.positiveatheism.org/mail/eml8561.htm

The emotions this topic arouses in atheists makes it obvious that it is very important to them that Darwin DID NOT have a death bed conversion.

And so it will be with Hitchens. If measures are not taken to accurately record Hitchen's death, then there will again be doubt, and rumors and legends will crop up that he had a deathbed conversion.

At that time, I will link to this thread and say "I told you so..."

 

lol

So if Darwin did convert, what would that accomplish exactly? Evolution is not atheistic, so the relevance is what?

 

Atheists have dedicated entire websites to this topic and now you claim atheists don't care?

Hmmmmm.

I guess there's no winning with you people because you keep changing the rules.

 

This is a perfect example of why I am skeptical of the current atheist movement. It appears to be infected by politics. This stament above is a political statement, not a scientific statement.

 

No, I quite honestly don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) what Darwin claimed on his death bed. There are entire Christian's on Stormfront who wish to kill gays, jews, and minorities, does that mena that all Christians do? No. Don't be ridiculous.

What relevance is Darwin's last words? Does it somehow impact evolutionary biology in some sort of secret way?