Hitchens' Death Will be Closely Watched

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  1. Incorporeal

    Incorporeal Well-Known Member

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    Now that is really ironic. You post the same reason that I used when I posted the comment I made. Such irony.
     
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    To you. But then again you have faith in something that there is no proof of whatsoever.

    I will say it again- I could care less whether or not Hitchens converts now, doesn't convert or converts in the last 5 seconds of his life. That is totally his decision. Or not if he has enough pain killers on boards.

    I also wouldn't care if the Pope or Billy Graham announced that they had lost their faith in God- those are personal decisions. Don't affect my beliefs at all.

    Yep- one of the reasons I find Hitchens words almost as irritating as yours. Extremists who promote their beliefs aggresively and 'in your face' irritate me. But then again you seem to believe that all atheists are the same....luckily I know that all people who call themselves Christians are not the same.

    I notice that you ignored my pointing out that his brother is a Christian and is likely to be at his side.

    But really- you will believe whatever you chose to believe, regardless of the evidence. I mean- you already do.

    You are way too much like Hitchens....
     
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    I'll really miss Hitchens when he goes. His subtle and nuanced intellect is a treasure.

    I don't care if he comes to Jesus or not. I will always think of him as a truly great man and gifted writer.
     
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    I assume this is sarcasm. Hitchens is about as subtle as a punch to the groin, and not nearly as pleasant.
     
  5. Albert Di Salvo

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    Your assumption is not correct. Hitchens was capable of vileness, but so am I. Hitch operated at many different levels. A very complicated man. So am I.

    The thing about him that I admired was his constant testing of his own assumptions to determine their continuing validity. This is the essence of intellectual honesty.

    He was an atheist of the militant variety. I am an atheist of the quiet type.

    Hitch believed in the necessity of freedom for the Kurds. So do I.

    Hitch thought the invasion of Iraq was a good idea. At the time so did I.

    Hitch was absolutely right about Bill Clinton. He spoke the truth about Clinton even though he was a man of the left. I will miss him when he's gone.

    It is very much possible for a conservative to respect and admire a man of the left who is a worthy adversary.
     
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    Panzerkampfwagen New Member

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    I still don't understand why the religious in here seem to think that Hitchens owes them his death.
     
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    I will not ever forget the hateful obituaries Hitchens wrote when John Paul II and Mother Theresa died. Perhaps as a Christian I should forgive him, but so far he hasn't asked for forgiveness.
     
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    Well since Mother Theresa was an evil (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) who delighted in the suffering of those she claimed was under her care.........
     
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    No, he owes you atheists a public death. If Hitchens' death is behind closed doors, then some Christian will start a rumor that Hitchens repented before he died. You will be unable to answer these rumors then they will become legend, like the legendary repentence of Voltaire and Darwin.

    I have warned you.
     
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    If they weren't there then they'll just be (*)(*)(*)(*)ing liars. Why don't you understand this?
     
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    Mother Theresa is a saint and would forgive you for insulting her, but maybe I won't. I am not a saint.
     
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    No. We're good. He doesn't owe us anything.
     
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    The care she offered was many times worse than those offered by acutal hospitals where she was. Her sect of Christianity believed that observing suffering brought you, not the sufferer, closer to god. She was evil and the world is better off without her.
     
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    So that was the standard Jesus set? They have to ask first?

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    Sweeping generalizations are for chumps.
     
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    Have you read the thread or are you just jumping in on just this page?
     
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    What Felicity is saying is you can't say that all Christians are agreeing with me. She has already said she doesn't. She wants Hitchens to repent and doesn't care if anyone knows about it.

    But she's a better Christian than I am. I want bragging rights.
     
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    Show me where I used the word all.
     
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    You used the word "the religious" as if there was more than one person advocating my position.

    So far, it's only me. Every other religious person on this thread so far has disagreed with me.
     
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    Yup--that's what I'm saying. Although, Blackrook, I understand your frustration.
     
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    The Catholic Church believes this does it?

    This is nothing but flame bait, proof that athtards will say anything to disagree with Christians.
     
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    Worse than Christards getting their rocks off on a dying man, wanting to make his final agony public for partisan purposes and motives of spite?
     
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    Except that this is the moment when atheism and Christianity's ideological chtuzpa comes to the for. Chris Hitchens facing the immenent reality of his own morality, of a life times of ommission based invective, and stallwart rejection of God .... well, yes, his death will be closely watched by some, but not to get their rocks off (in some), but because people who know there is a God also know that there is a price for Hitchens actions.

    Not sure how that stacks up as equal to someone making up malicious lies about Mother Theresa just so you insult an entire faith population? Maybe you atheists would like to accuse Big Bird of molestation while you are at it?

    Now why would anyone so grossly mischaracterize these things? That's right, because atheism is emotion - not logical - and far too many modern atheists will do absolutely anything to angrily disagree with a Christian - even Mother Theresa is a worse person than the average atheist accoding the them.

    Just so we are tracking, anyone, regradless of their ideology, that makes stuff up just to insult something? Yep, that pretty defined retarded.
     
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    Thanks for contributing yet another offtopic diatribe giving it to those despised atheists.
     
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    Umm no, it is on topic.
     

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