The War In Iraq Is Over!

On one thread you admit that the war on terror was invented to replace the cold war....

And yet you seem to think that 19 Saudis just conveniently gave the US this free licence ... out of sheer generosity?

I work with several senior military staff and academics and civil servants on a daily basis. Most do not even question that 9-11 was an inside job. It is common knowledge.

It really does not need much thought to come to this conclusion. It merely needs a vague interest in geopolitics, history and reality.

Most people are not interested and watch X factor.

 

Apply your same logic against the OFFICIAL story.

How do you fair there?

 

Correction; I made no such admission. I clearly stated that Muslims had become the new Communists for a section of the USA. Don't try to misrepresent what I said. It won't work.

 

Still refusing to answer the question i see.

I wonder why that is?

If you apply your same criteria to the official story... it becomes a conspiracy theory.

Then what does a conspiracy theory become?

You defeated yourself before you even began.

 

Yes. They did it in 1993. Much more effectively in 2001. With a laptop computer with the flight schedules and box cutters, anyone could have done 9/11. Not like there is any advanced technologies or intelligence required.

 

Is that right? Why don't they do it every week then?

Come on stop living in denial.

Norad was stood down .. FACT.

The most secure building in the world... was breached by a jet liner! HA HA HA

Are you really serious? The Pentagon could not defend itself?

 

Prior to 9/11, I doubt there is any building in the world that would have been able to defend against a passenger airliner flown directly into it. And in fact, I would probably be more concerned with the governments ability to blow domestic passenger flights out of the skies on a moments notice, than I would be with the ability to take over a passenger airliner from within and use it as a weapon. If I were to now, be on a plane taken over by hijackers, I'll probably be looking out the window, more concerned with might be coming from out there, than what the hijackers might do. We did see immediately after 9/11, mobile surface to air missiles temporarily parked on the lawn of the pentagon, and pressumably now secreted away somewhere now.

 

Well it is still better than living in Russia.

 

????"Inside job" 93 bombing was carried out by-

Ramzi Yousef came from the Khalden training camp in Afghanistan in Sept. 92 on an Iraqi passport and fled to Iraq after the attack. Originally from Balochistan Pakistan.

Abdul Rahman Yasin, born in the US and shortly there after went back to his families home in Baghdad where he grew up. Not to return to the US again until June 92 when his US birth certificate got him a Jordanian passport. And he returned to Iraq after the attack.First Saddam regime's gave money and housing to Yasin, then they put him in prison. We demanded his return and Saddam offered to return him to the US, only if the US would agree to making the statement that Saddam and Iraq had no involvement in the attack.

Mahmud Abouhalima an Egyptian Immigrant to Germany, then the US. He also traveled to Camp Khalden in Afghanistan. In his spare time in Brooklyn he raised money for the Afghan Mujahideen.

Ahmed Ajaj, originally from the west bank, immigrated to Tx. He also went to to Camp Khalden in Afghanistan.

Who is on the inside? 9/11 was orchestrated by Ramzi Yousefs uncle, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

 

It seems almost remarkable, in that case then.

You are essentially admitting that despite having the most sophisticated defence and security systems in the world, that men of a low IQ, with crude equipment could stike a blow the heart of corporate America.

Twice.

What does that say about your defence systems then?

 

You are right.

Let's take the printed media, as well.

In an exhaustive study, and this was among the 'qualities', not the tabloids, it was shown that

Only 14% of the stories are original stories as reported by that paper.

The other EIGHTY SIX PER CENT are wire copy, and agency releases.

Moreover, the average number of stories demanded of a modern journalist, EVERY DAY - ten?

How can any journalist hope to ensure that facts are checked, when he is like a media version of a battery chicken, strapped to his desk, churning out copy, and rehashing stories?

Remember, this was the so called quality press, not the tabloids.

 

I would dispute your tally of 4, but there are so few because most people are sane enough to realize that blowing up a bunch of people usually accomplishes nothing other than blowing up a bunch of people.

 

It's a strange thing though, don't you think?

After 911, there were almost daily warnings that other terror attacks WOULD HAPPEN, lot of them, and soon.

They didn't.

Did these maniacs in caves simply have a moment of clarity then?

Are they all dead?

911 definitely did not benefit Muslims, or even political Islam.

It definitely did not benefit the American people, whose freedoms are curtailed.

Do you think it benefitted anyone..?

How about...



'The Israeli newspaper Ma'ariv on Wednesday reported that Likud leader Benjamin Netanyahu told an audience at Bar Ilan university that the September 11, 2001 terror attacks had been beneficial for Israel'


http://www.haaretz.com/news/report-netanyahu-says-9-11-terror-attacks-good-for-israel-1.244044

 

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Wrong. The objective was an ally and fob in the region (one not on holy land).

Diplomatic relations have failed and there will b no fob.

Obama snatched defeat from the jaws of victory!

And we'll see if the IRaqis can hold their own when the IRanians and Salafis move in/

 

Serious questions to those that take the official account at face value.

Why would you believe the same men and media who misled you all over Iraqi WMD's, not to mention a plethora of other things, down the years?

Why do you place such trust, in such flawed men and women?

What evidence do you have that Bin Laden masterminded 911, beyond being told so, and some dubious vids of him allegedly taking responsibility?

Would this evidence hold up in an objective court of law, in any Western country?

I am open minded, like I said.

Those who believe the official account, as told by proven liars, they are making a positive claim, therefore, they must surely frame it with the most fantastic of evidence, no?

Snakestretcher, you know that is the rule, so ....

 

Come on denial man. They had over an hour to stop that plane hitting the Pentagon. A plane is easier to stop than a missile. Are you telling me that the Pentagon had no way of stopping a missile hitting it?

How naive are you?

The plane was allowed to hit.. as they knew where it was hitting. The accounting department area... no threat to anyone important there.

 

I have never lived in Russia. Have you?

 

93 and 2001 were inside jobs.. CIA.

I love those afghanistan training camps. HA HA HA

 

Unless you are part of the US MIC.. then you know it means TRILLIONS of dollars in defence investment.

 

You should tell that to the IRA. They won by blowing people up.

Anyway back to the evil AL QAEDA who hate our freedom loving ways.

Any reason why they have attempted just TWO attacks in the US in 100 years (even though both were actually inside jobs)?

 

Also massively beneficial for the US defence industry ...i.e. Those who run the US.

 

Snakestretcher simply avoids this question. I have asked him 10 times to explain why he does not apply the same criteria to the official story about 9-11. He simply ignores the question.

He is typical of the vast majority of people.. who simply believe what they are fed. They never question their media or government (same thing). They simply cannot believe that their government lie to them on a daily basis.

There is much more evidence that 9-11 was committed by Americans than there is that 9-11 was committed by Arabs. However the likes of snakestretcher call people who believe this conspiracy theorists. He does not call official story believers conspiracy theorists. Quite an anomaly.

 

Theyve attempted dozens of attacks. Only two have been successful because they arent very good at it.

 

Infinitely better that you complete absence of evidence would.