Can Muslims Ever Be Trusted ? (asked of non-Muslims)

Well it is predictable that you cannot see the contradiction!!!

"By order of the Koran, Muslims may not make war against other Muslims" but "the primary victims of Muslims are Muslims" so "proves that they were not Muslims at all"

Your circular argument is the contradiction. So what was it that you said about all Muslims following the order of the Qu'ran? Go and sit in the corner of the circular room while you think about it.

 

Oooh...I'm so sorry.....would this help clarify matters?
http://www.rense.com/general37/InvisibleGenocid.html
I produce lots of these! From Palestine, Libya, Afghanistan, Somalia,Iraq!

You want pictures of the deformed children with American Depleted uranium!

Your a bloody idiot to ask a question considering the thuggery and rapes and torture you're nation commits daily!

Highlander

 

How about when they wipeout a whole village?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...illage-wiped-map-25-tons-coalition-bombs.html

 

When Muslims make war on other Muslims, then they are showing themselves to not really be true Muslims, but they were Muslim in name (as most all Muslims are). No contradiction. If you can't get it, not my problem.

 

Perhaps the people who wage war on each other in Muslim countries do so not because of their religion but because of the lack of freedom but because of their governments which want their people divided. For example, the Egyptian government was known to bomb Christians in order to incite violence. And, yeah, that would be the Egyptian government supported by the United States government which funded those bombs with taxpayer money. The environment is the source of violence, not the religion. If Muslims liked violence, I suppose they'd prefer to stay in Middle Eastern / North African countries rather than migrate to the US.

 

Ah good, you are finally getting it. It is not the fault of the Qu'ran for the behaviour of these "Muslims" afterall.

 

Well, wasn't it you who just said something about the justification of allied bombing of cities in Nazi Germany. ? And why do you make it sound like the US military went right right and wiped out a whole village, instead of including (as Paul Harvey would say) "the rest of the story" ?

Taliban militants had taken control of the village and battered the coalition task force with homemade bombs and improvised explosive devices.

And after two attempts at clearing the village led to casualties on both sides, Lieutenant Colonel David Flynn, commander of the Combined Joint Task Force 1-320th gave the order to pulverise the village.

Ever serve in the military ? Maybe you don't understand war. It's not a game of checkers.

 

Of course it is the fault of the Koran, and you just don't want to get it, I suspect. Because you're a Muslim ?

 

I ask you to produce a pogrom or genocide that's occuring NOW in 2011, and you give me a bunch of stuff from the early Bush years, and the 1990s. So what is that ? An admission that you don't have anything to show to back up your statement that > "America commits pogroms...genocide...and every other disgusting excess the human mind can conceive! Daily!" ???

Well I guess it is an admission of that. You had a chance to back up your statement and you failed. Conclusion : Your statement is FALSE !

 

No, not me.

The same village that homed civilians that were held "hostage" by the Taliban.

Do not believe in any major religion. I have my own unique religion

 

Who ever said Muslims "liked" violence. No, they neither like it or dislike it. After 1400 years of tradition, for them, it's simply a way of life. (which we in America want no part of).

 

I can see why you say that.....that's because I'm not the village idiot!

http://www.rense.com/general63/mme.htm

Perhaps if you can read....and digest the degenerate behaviour of your nation's leaders through out the world.....nah....you'd dismiss the point or walk off before anything sunk in!
But I suppose in your case that's just a disposition you have to put up with!

Regards
Highlander

 

The first NON-answer to the question was enough. I take your word for it that you obviously have no basis to your ludicrous claim that "America commits pogroms...genocide...and every other disgusting excess the human mind can conceive! Daily!" No need to assure me of that twice.
Of course if you had just put the word commit in the past tense, you could have gotten by with a reference to all these 2003 and earlier links you worthlessly keep popping up with. At least that would have been truthful, albiet irrelevant to my question, and another confirmation that what you said was FALSE.

 

They were not Soldiers, they were Marines. There is a huge difference. And I do not understand how being a US Marine (or Soldier) makes it impossible for somebody to be a Muslim.

From what I have seen, your position is less protectionist and more paranoid. And from the Muslims I have had contact with, it is in opposition of what they believe also.

I would agree it is accurate for the radicals, but they are a majority of the faith.

 

When I find myself in agreement with Cassandra, you know that there must be something there. We are often butting heads over issues, but in this I find myself in complete agreement, and applaud her.

It may be a long time before it happens again, but it is refreshing to see.

 

based on what I have read in the media - violence appears to be an American "way of life".

based on my contact with Muslims - it is not a Muslim "way of life."

I suspect for you its the media, reinforced by internet hate sites,that informs your understanding of Muslims.

 

Lols ... I probably agree with you more often than not!

 

In case you did not realize it, there are different sects of Islam. Just like there are different sects of Christianity.

And all to often, attacking members of the other sects is allowed, since they are considered to be heritics and apostates. This is perfectly OK, and even encouraged.

In case you never realized it, the vast majority of these attacks are exactly that, attacks between Sunni and Shi'ite. Which generally view each other as not being "True Muslims".

Think of those Holy Wars in Europe between Christians. This is no different.

 

true - and even in recent history - the Irish Question is not completely resolved, and there are clearly still divisions between some branches of christianity and others - there is evidence of this here on this forum.

that there is less violence is probably more related to modern democracy and relatively high living standards rather than christianity being less violent.

 

Divisions? What possibly could they be? The lies and deceit of Child abusers?
Perhaps the the divisions are caused Christian nations using torture methods last seen in the WW2! Or perhaps it the mass murder of defenceless men women and children by these Christians! Might have something to do with the killing of men and women and stealing there body parts to sell on the open market to Christians! The rape of men women and children allowed to happen by these same Christians! I do use the words Christian because they hide behind the label! They certainly aren't Christians!
Yes the evidence is on this forum!!! But you need to have open eyes and a heart free of bias and dogma! Something else you might have difficulty finding with some of those less well educated on this forum!!!

As for democracy......there is no democracy... Fascism, extremism, the behaviour experienced by our forefathers during the Nazi era and Zionist era and American super power era!!

Regards
Highlander

 

I find two things in your post interesting :

1. "From what I have seen" - and what have you seen ?

2. "your position" - how would you define that ? What position ?

Also, have you ever been a soldier, and how do you define that ?

 

So you're just as clueless about all this as she is. If either of you took the Quiz in post # 361, combined, you probably wouldn't get a score of 10%. Go ahead. try it.

 

I suspect if you took a properly designed test on comparative religion, you would flunk it dismally.... so I wouldn't get too excited about doing well in a quiz that reflects stuff you have learned by rote, but is not necessarily true.

 

This may disappoint you greatly but I rarely go to what you call internet hate sites and when I do I find them (jihadwatch, Islamwatch, Act for America, barenakedislam) very informative and accurate, and your mindless propaganda lies don't have an ounce of effect upon that. And since you're the one who's always crowing about how necessary it is to go to a place before you judge it, then how about you practice what you preach, and don't base your conclusion on what you've "read in the media".

 

Am I supposed to care ? I care about Islamization in America, which directly harms the American people, not gripes that Sunnis & Shi'ites have with each other.