Can Muslims Ever Be Trusted ? (asked of non-Muslims)

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  1. protectionist

    protectionist Banned

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    Muslims have killed 270 million people around the globe, for 1400 years, and they continue to do it every day NOW (not hundreds of years ago). No ideology, cult, religion, or nation even comes close to that horrific figure - to claim otherwise is entirely ridiculous and nonsensical, with no basis in fact or reality.

    http://www.politicalislam.com/tears/pages/tears-of-jihad/
     
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    Heck that's not religious war. That's just us Irish people sowing our wild oats. Irish are always fighting against Irish, didn't you know ? Go visit any Irish bar at 9:00 PM - you'll see. LOL. Religion ? That's as good an excuse as any for a good brawl. Comparing Christian violence with Muslim. Pheeeeeeww !! (high pitched whistle) I'm trying to be discreet here, really I am, but the door is just too wide open > LOL
     
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    I guess trust is possible on the "infidel" side.
     
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    Depends on the reason, who they are, and who their enemies are (and maybe a few other things). I still say likely though.
     
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    No it doesn't seem that at all. I stick with post # 376 (100%).
     
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    this is further evidence of your particularly narrow world view.

    American spelling is not the only version in the English language.


    WRT Mohammed etc ... you again demonstrate a bias fed by hate sites, rather than a knowledge of history.

    Your response to another post of mine where you discussed Eisenhower provided considerable insight into where you are coming from however.

    You obviosuly feel powerless, which explains your need to project your hatred and anger on to someone else.

    Muslims are fair game, because in your cultural milieu, they are an acceptable target of hatred.

    in another time and place, it would have been Jews, Catholics, Protestants, Bahai, Shia, Sunni, intellectuals, blacks, hutus, tutsis ... whatever.
     
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    1. I just told you why. because the thread is about trusting Muslims, not anything about Christians. If you want to talk about Christians, you can find the New Thread button I would guess.

    2. Not much difference between Islamic countries and the west ? LOL
    Is that what your Islamist professors have been feeding you ? well I can see they've got you programmed. Sheeeeeeshh !!! Pheeeeeeww !!
     
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    What you as Muslim can say is OOPS ! You see this thread was for non-Muslims to comment, so you weren't invited. Now Mr. thread crasher, you may go back to your other threads. Goodbye.
     
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    When you're talking to me, American spelling is required (but nobody ever said you had to talk to me).

    So you're saying Mohammed was not all the things I said he was ?

    Oh, this is precious, now you're going to try and play the psychologist routine , huh ? LOL. Eh, what's up doc ?

    Muslims are not an acceptable target of hatred, unless they harm others (including other Muslims) because of their wackjob ideology. Problem is they do that routinely with both violent jihad and stealth jihad.

    Yeah, in another time, like maybe 621 AD, before the Hijra (Mohammed's journey from Yathrib to Mecca) and the start of Islamic imperialism.
     
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    Thank you for pointing that out - one of the primary victims of Muslims are Muslims. It is like a sickly twisted dysfunctional family. Another primary target of their visciousnes are Secular Middle Eastern peoples.
     
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    I claimed it never happened ? Where ? In what post ?

    FALSE ! My messages do not show a strong disfavor or hatred for those of the Muslim ideology. In fact, I sympathize quite a bit with many of them, especially those most persecuted by the evil of it (women, children, gays, blacks, slaves, and "Muslims" who are Muslims only because they were forced to be). So what you believe is shown to you, is in YOUR head, not mine, and you reveal yourself as prejudiced (or bigoted if you like) against protectionists. What I show a strong disfavor for is the bad pages of the Koran, and jihadists who seek to impose those bad pages of Islam upon non-Muslims and, in many cases, are already doing that, violently and through Islamization. what is baffling is why you sympathize with the imposers, rather than those being imposed upon.

    What you said about those alleged "Muslim" soldiers proves that they were not Muslims at all. Anyone can call himself a Muslim. They can refuse pork, alcohol, and non halal meat. They can wash their feet before prayers 5 times a day. They can do anything they want, but if they don't follow the Koran (every single word), they are Muslims in name only. By order of the Koran, Muslims may not make war against other Muslims.

    As for the avatar, you don't seem to understand the connection between the Marines fighting the Japs on Iwo Jima and what I do in this forum. Both are protection of the American people. Maybe you know the history of the war in the Pacific. If so, that's good. But to connect it with my messages here, you would have to know (thoroughly) the history of Islamization (AKA Stealth Jihad) in America. Do you ? If you could take the Quiz I posted in post # 361 and identify about 2/3 of the stuff in it, then I guess you could understand the protectionist position where I am coming from. Otherwise, probably not. And if not, you're far from alone.
     
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    sorry sweetie - been on this forum longer than you - maybe YOU should start using Oxford English when talking to me - not that you are required to respond to my posts.

    yup


    based on my assessment, it certainly would account for your obsession.


    you are not making sense. you say UNLESS they target people - then go on to say that they do so routinely.

    where is your evidence that this relates to the majority of Muslims?

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    you are classic - you would have been in your element among the Hitler youth, either groups of Muslim or Hindu youths slaughtering people during the partition in India, among settlers hunting down indigenous peoples on several continents, among white south africans voting to put the Africans in Bantustans and passing laws to prevent mixed marriages ... and so on.
     
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    by your assessment, the majority of christians, jews and buddhists would also not be christians, jews and buddhists.
     
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    Is this debate still going on?
     
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    Ouch, is it possible that truth coming from someone who's applying things from the Book you're slandering in everyday life spoils your propaganda :-D:-D:-D awwwww :mrgreen:
     
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    What the (*)(*)(*)(*) is this? Some radical Muslims crash a plane into a building and suddenly Islam is an evil political ideology? I doubt that before 9/11 you guys gave a half ass about Islam and you know it. In the 50's you would be hating communists and in the 30's you would have been saying the same things about Judaism.
    I am so tired of this hatred against Muslims. Half these people claiming terrible things about Islam have (not probably, definitely) never met a Muslim. Yes, there are plenty of radicals out there, but if actually knowing Islamic people has taught me one thing, it's that there's far more Muslims that are ordinary people than radicals. They wear normal clothes, have normal jobs, hell they even drink. Sure, their probably not good at being Islamic, but they're a (*)(*)(*)(*) sight better than the people who blow themselves up. and there is a lot more of them than the radicals.

    And,seriously, Islam is no threat, honestly we are becoming bigger and bigger (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*). I mean seriously western civilization is threatened by some people who don't draw god and say Jesus was not one. Really? If that's all it takes to threaten the collapse of the west, maybe we should jump ship.
     
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    These people are so confused that they cannot help contradict themselves
     
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    Certainly no confusion where AIPAC military and the Obama puppet is concerned!
    http://uruknet.info/?p=m82447&hd=&size=1&l=e

    Even 16 year old Americans can be removed from the equation! Will you be next?

    One thing is for sure the degenerates will not stop until they are held to account for there actions!

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    Where do you see a self-contradiction ?
     
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    1. The word "threat" applies to what might happen in the future. Since you didn't stipulate any country in particular in your post, it's fair to respond from a perspective of any country's involvement. Are you aware of what has already been occuring with Islam, in the recent past, to be able to judge its level of threat ? You sound like you are oblivious to what's been going on.

    2. What do you know about the "ordinary" Muslims when they are at home behind their closed doors ? Do the husbands illegally beat their wives, in accordance with Koran 4:34 ? Do the adults illegally have sex with children, as inspired by Mohammed's example, and Koran 65:4 ? Do these ordinary Muslims illegally have slaves inside their homes who never go out, and who are not allowed to be seen by visitors (if you ever visited their homes) ? Do these "ordinary" Muslims illegally kill sheep and goats once a year on Eid al-Adha (Koran 2:196). etc. etc.

    3. Doesn't matter if 99% of Muslims renounced Islam entirely and became Christians. If only 1% of all the 340,392 Muslims in Australia were terrorists, that would be 3,403 terrorists there. Seeing as how it only took 19 terrorists to enact the whole 9/11 catastrophe, and only 1 to kill 13 soldiers and badly injure 29 more at Fort Hood ,TX, 3,403 terrorists doesn't sound like a small number.

    4. How many of the 340,392 Muslims in Australia are members of Muslim Brotherhood organizations ? How many have been engaging is Islamization, at the expense of non-Muslim Australians ? Do have answers to these questions, before you go around assuming everything is perfectly OK ?
     
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    No, I must have a response to debate:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/terro...trusted-asked-non-muslims-18.html#post4643082

    "I doubt that before 9/11 you guys gave a half ass about Islam and you know it."

    "Muslim if we keep the quotes from religious texts short in any other topic we won’t get in trouble with the Webmaster and will be able to get to the bottom of our misunderstandings, but since you have moved here we can stay here if you please. I myself can’t understand anyone, like some on this board, who are so insecure in their beliefs or lack there of as to be offended by others simple words." (posted August 30, 2001 10:35 PM, in "new colored forum please" topic started by muslim to talk to me on a newspaper message board, in the Religion Forum after being told to take it to that forum after quoting one verse from the bible in the Speak Out forum topic "Taliban"; the "Colored Forum" topic is where I argued with the Webmaster for a change in rules to be allowed to quote religous texts in a topic like the one on the Taliban.)
     
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    I did not say you condone that. You seem to be claiming that it is only the Muslims that intentionally kill innocents.

    This is not true as indeed massive bombs are dropped where it is konwn that innocents will be killed.

    You are getting emotional .. get ahold of yourself.. I did not say you agreed with intentional killing of innocents.

    There are indeed situations that one could come up with where killing of innocents is the only reasonable option. Bombing factories in cities in Germany during WWII for example.


    The point of the issue is there are many cases where the US and Israel have intentionally killed innocents with callaus disregard/ little valid justification.

    It is not just the Muslim extremists.
     
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    Sure, you could point to Vietnam I suppose. But in today's issues can you name one instance where the US military has intentionally killed innocents, not counting isolated incidents of drunk or foolish soldiers (which occurs in any war) ???
     
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    Everything is planned!
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVE8rV3-Zos&feature=player_embedded"]CTE Kuwaiti baby incubator lies Barry Zwicker - YouTube[/ame]
    Intentionally lied and allowed the American murder and genocide of 1.5million Iraqis!

    http://articles.economictimes.india...0250574_1_chinese-presence-chinese-troops-pok

    http://nsnbc.wordpress.com/2011/09/25/abdelhakim-belhadj-the-mask-behind-the-many-men/
    America commits pogroms...genocide...and every other disgusting excess the human mind can conceive! Daily!

    Regards
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    That wasn't in today's issues, and it wasn't the US military, it was George W. Bush. That's history now. So can you name one pogrom or genocide that America commits, now in 2011 ? If you can name one, let's hear it.
     
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