What if a Loved One Told You They Were G/L/BI?

Discussion in 'Gay & Lesbian Rights' started by Wolverine, Nov 23, 2011.

  1. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    Your irrational animus against homosexuals does nothing to improve this society.
     
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    So heterosexuality has no bearing on your identity?
     
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    How does it?

    The only place where it could affect it is that by having gay sex you don't procreate and thus won't be mommy or daddy

    For childless people, there is no identity difference. You are either a man or a woman
     
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    So you wouldn't self-identify as a heterosexual? It would make no difference to you if your friends and family thought you were gay? You'd be indifferent to that?
     
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    Describing that as "thought" gives it far too much credit.
     
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    who cares?

    Honestly, we're only talking about what people do in their bedroom.

    if I'm a guy and I diddle John vs Joan, and you think that makes me a different person then the problem isn't with me.

    If I don't have sex at all and take a vow of celibacy would you then despise me only on the odd days but like me on the even days?
     
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    Not at all responding to the question that was asked.
     
  8. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    That... is an AWESOMELY IMPORTANT and revealing question. Bravo!!
     
  9. Johnny-C

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    I've seen guys literally FREAK-OUT (possibly closeted gay or homophobic dudes) over someone even "hinting" that they were gay. That "identity" matters exponentially more than you seem to realize.

    It's 'deeper' and wider than that; but personally, that could be YOUR view. That is understandable. But in the societal sense, there is a LOT more to sexual identity.

    Are we talking about "childless people", or are we talking about one's identity where sexual-orientation is concerned (there is a pretty significant distinction to be made).
     
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    You know honestly the more I think about it the less I care.

    I came out as gay to my parents over the last year. Didn't go terribly, but it could have been smoother.

    When it came right down to it...I didn't care. I was the same person either way, they just knew something about me that they hadn't before. It didn't change the way I felt about it, didn't change the way they felt about me. So all in all it was fairly moot.

    I've come to the conclusion that if there is anyone who has a problem with it...it's their problem...not mine.
     
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    To the OP's question, I wouldn't care. Their sexual orientation is their own.
     
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    BINGO!!!!!!!

    it does not change who you are as a person nor does sex make you who you are. It's a very simple sniff test

    if I am gay, then xxxxxx

    If I am celibate, then xxxxx


    do you see how having or not having sex makes no difference?


    but, if I shoot and kill someone, then I am a murderer

    If I don't shoot or don't even carry a gun then I'm not a murderer

    In the above example there is a huge difference
     
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    Correct, because sexuality is not at the core of the identity of any person as created by God.

    There are pedophiles who bellieve that as well.
     
  14. Johnny-C

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    The above is both foolish and untrue. Really... you're making things up; YOUR BELIEFS do not define reality. Still, believe what you want/must but you can't prove what you're saying.

    Are you really comparing homosexual people with pedophiles? If so, that is just plain idiocy.

    I'm convinced that you don't know what you're talking about here.
     
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    Prove it.
    See above.
    Obviously not. I'm comparing those homosexuals who rationalize their perversion with those pedophiles who rationalize their perversion.
     
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    Prove that "God" exists.

    Again, if YOU 'believe' in "God", the ONLY thing that suggests is that you have faith in the concept of the same. That proves virtually nothing about human sexuality or the 'nature' of it.

    Homosexuality is a "perversion"? You may not care, but that isn't a proper definition of any person's sexual-orientation, and it is just plain offensive.

    That statement of yours is both idiotic AND 'perverse' (in my opinion).
     
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    Just curious why you ignored my post, Johnny-C. Do you not think it's important for a bi-sexual man to tell his female partners he has sex with men?
     
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    I don't know. (Did it make sense, Smartmouthwoman?)

    Do people routinely disclose their sexual histories before having sex? They may share some details... but are they being accurate/truthful?

    Hey... when you have sex with someone you really don't know, the consequences are what they are.

    Personally, I believe people should check their health status and avoid having sex, if there is an illness which could affect/infect some they would engage in sexual acts with.
     
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    Unnecessary.
    Of course it is.
    Prove it.
    Pedophiles think so too.
    I don't care about your "opinion", because you have no other purpose here but to rationalize your ridiculous behavior.
     
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    Lol........
     
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    As long as they did not want to get me involved, who cares. The only tholime of bothers me is when someone tells me I should accept it to they point where I have to observe or take part in it against my will.
     
  22. Smartmouthwoman

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    So do I. That's the point. A bi-sexual male is knowingly putting his female partners at risk since he has no way of knowing whether he contracted HIV from his last gay sex act.

    Let's look at the facts, shall we?

    I stand by my earlier statement... a bi-sexual man should worry about telling his female sex partners about his bi-sexuality, not his family. Whether or not he's 'accepted' is immaterial compared to the potentially life-threatening situation he's putting his female partners into.

    Do you agree or disagree?
     
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    Then you have something in common.
     
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    Bad try.

    ...
     
  25. thebrucebeat

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    If you say so.
     

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