Don't Attack Iran!

Right, the truth lies within tiny radical groups

 

Stooges always believed that honesty is something radical.

In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act!

 

M8, they dont want peace, i figured it out a few months ago, many here support Hamas and belive peace will destroy the Palestinians, they want either to kick the jews out or stream millions of Muslim in Israel, no peace if that concept is followed by the Palestinians.

 

I can see only racist Goyim-Haters in this forum, thrash that hates Muslims and real Christians and turns a blind eye on the crimes of Zionism.

 

Wearing your che guevara T shirt?

Only facists claim ownership on truth, btw, I think i can guess which side of the berlin wall you came from

 

What do Zionists mean with "peace"?

Are they ready to stick to the international law, go back to the recognized borders, allow the refugees to return to their homes?

Are they ready to pay compensations and contributions to the people they so severely harmed and continue to harm?

 

Just look who owns the media, and you will find out who the fascists are.

 

LOL, who owns the media and the banks Art ? tell it for the future generations, dont let racism stop with you, pass it on to your kids!

 

Oh, I think the problem is entrenchment/brinksmanship.

Both sides think that giving even an inch will mean their utter doom, even as both sides know they have both done many things right and many things wrong. Both sides know that compromise is necessary to move forward.

Much as I hate to admit it on both sides, there have been concrete steps in the past few months to reduce the effects of the extremists on both sides. We have not heard all that much from the angry settlers recently on one hand, and Hamas has been pulled back into the fold - so to speak.

This points to something going on behind the scences, as even Bibi has been unually quiet of late.

Of course, the hardest part just seems to be able to have an honest, objective discussion as your opinion gets spun into:

a. You are an apologist for Israel and support genocide of the Palestinians.

b. You are an apologist for Islam, clearly support terrorism, and are somehoe nefariously linked Al Qaeda and Iran.

Its quite silly actually, but such attitudes reflect the reality of the stalemate.

Israel frets about having so few citizens matched up against so many Palestinians and their potential allies. And the Paletsinians worry about a vastly superior military force, with the most powerful Nations on the Earth arrayed stoically behind it.

Compromise is necessary.

 

Anybody taking the trouble to read the Palestine Papers will know, with certainty, that it is Zionist extremists who have , consistently, blocked dialogue , solution and peace with the people they have invaded. This is no longer opinion, guesswork or invention- this is demonstrable fact. It's fact which is also demonstrated daily in the world's media which is outside of direct Zionist control.
The Palestinian refugees, those who were forced from their homes by Zionist invaders and the descendants of those refugees, have a legal right to return to their own lands and homes- despite those lands and homes being occupied by ' Israelis '. The Zionist leadership, pre-United Nations, was very much aware that Zionism in Palestine could only succeed if the indigenous people, the Palestinians, were subjected to " brutal compulsion ". This, again, is demonstrable fact. It doesn't matter that the Zionists have occupied Palestine for sixty, seventy or even eighty years. Time will NOT erase Palestine , Palestinians or their rights. The scrabbling posts of Internet Zionists wanting to change history to suit their immoral cause isn't going to do anything except harden the resolve for justice and the rule of law. Israel is becoming delegitimized and that process is being accelerated by Zionist liars, brutes and cheats. Nobody, with the possible exception of estate agents and the arms industry, will be sorry to see an end to Zionism.

 

That's funny moon, becasue if you read the Papers in Tel Aviv, you get exactly the oppoiste read of the situation.

Amazing how 60 years of failure is one sides or the other when it comes to negotiation. It take two to either suceed or fail.

And in the end, the goal is the two living in peace side by side.

Or we can be permanenty estranged and keep killing each other for another 60 years? Compromise is what is necessary.

 

I should have put Palestine Papers in italics. I'm not talking about the Palestinian press. Incidentally, I always quote from the Tel Aviv papers.

http://www.aljazeera.com/palestinepapers/

 

Agh, well, that totally misses the point.

There are just as many studies out there that pointedly blame the Palestinians as well.

At some point moon, you are as much an obstacle to peace as are the most militant Israelis. You are very good at pointing out faults in Israel, and as good as you are at that, you are equally horrible at acknowledging Palestinians failings.

That is no different that Militant Israelis who are VERY good at finding faults with the Palestinians, and whom will acknowledge NOT A SINGLE POINT you raise.

The serial castigation and blame leads no where in a hurry - and at some point, you have to look at the result of your efforts and realize that 60 years is probably long enough for stubborness to hold sway, and perhaps we should try something different?

After all, Israel is not going anywhere. Despite the fantasies of some, Israel is a juggernaught. Its economic and military strength make it well neigh immoveable.

Palestine is not going away either. Its people may be poor, but they are proud and willful. The only way to break them would be genocide, and any who attempt such a preversion will soon find themselves imperiled. Just ask the Russians how their Afghan adventure went for them.

That means compromise is necessary. Otherwise, you are just screaming into a wall.

Honestly, its a bit like watching two deaf guys scream at each other.

 

You ignore the biggest racism in the world against the majority of Earth's population: the Anti-Goiyim-Racism!

 

" Studies " ? Get a grip. The Palestine Papers aren't ' studies '.

 

Israel cannot survive without money taken away from the American and German taxpayers.

And if western politicians do not turn a blind eye on the Zionist's crimes any more, this regime will collapse and we will have a true democracy in Palestine, which will be the home for Muslims, Christians, Jews and atheists.

 

Evidence of this idiocy?

Most americans support an attack on iran's nuclear weapons facilities.

Support for israel has been steadily rising over the past 20 years.

You can afford one?

 

I am from Turkey of mixed christian/muslim origin, so nice try sweetie, keep trying you might get lucky.

 

What do arab muslims mean with "peace"?

Back to their native countries of jordna, syria and egypt?

You're right, when WILL those arab nations return the stolen property to the ethnically cleansed jews?

 

Just as well they don't have any then, isn't it.

No, that nightmare is diminishing.

http://www.politicalforum.com/latest-world-news/182017-u-s-opposition-zionism-increase.html

Not just in the US of AIPAC either;

http://www.politicalforum.com/latest-world-news/214830-just-14-pro-zionism-countries-remaining.html

 

The Palestinians have always lived in Palestine.. Jewish scholars identify them as decendents of first century Jewish peasant farmers who didn't leave.

If you read Ibn Battuta and Rabbi Benjamin of Tudela, there were just a tiny minority of Jews in Palestine..

Arab Jews would still be living and prospering in the Arab world if not for the coduct of European Zionism.

 

You seem kind of hateful yourself snakestretcher.

Communist atheists killed about 94 million in only 80 years! An atheist, Stalin, along with his fellow Christian-hater Hitler started the worst war in human history. And don't forget all the other atheist fanatics like Mussolini and Muslim-hater Christopher Hitchens. Secular fanatics have given us the Armenian genocide and Zionist ethnic cleansing as well.

Please also remember that the austere atheist philosophy has never attracted a large number of believers. Under 3% of the world population is atheist. So a small number of atheists are responsible for a tremendous amount of carnage. On a per capita basis atheists are by far the worst murderers in human history.

 

Name-calling - boring.

Absurd.

National Capital Insiders Vote AIPAC, Israel's American Lobby, Second Most Powerful Interest Group in Washington

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Don't you think an awful lot of traitors have been Jewish? In the U.S. we have Harry Dexter White and Julius Rosenberg and many, many others. Why should the West be desperate to support a group that too often feels little loyalty to the West? At present the West sacrifices its own interests to serve Israel. Why is this a good idea?

 

Lovely, keep me posted pls

 

Its already home to Muslims, Christians, Jews and atheists, perhaps you were reading a diffrent book?

Israel survived just fine before any kind of help from Germany or the US, now i know you've been reading a diffrent book