Christopher Hitchens, R.I.P.

Excellent post.

One would have to possess a "flawed thinking brain" to question the Christian faith, as virgins giving birth, talking serpents, 600 year old men and numerous perceived biblical inconsistencies make sense to only the most enlightened among us.

 

And, no doubt your expertise with the afterlife gives you a factual and scientific basis for rejecting anything about the afterlife?

If you don;t want to participate, fine, just don't think that being a jerk to others means you are participating in a civil and productive manner.

 

The funny thing about my type - I don't claim to have the answers to the unknown or unknowable. I find it laughable when types like yourself claim they do - and use a ridiculous story as the basis of their argument.

 

A 'civil atheist' is an oxymoron...more like an 'uncivil hater' would fit the typical atheist profile

 

I don't remember claiming I was an atheist, you so kindly managed to state that assumption on your own.

 

I merely used the 'XXXXX like a Duck' principle...

 

Oh? What a brilliant formula. You truly are a genius.

 

Your 'type' doesn't 'claim' to have answers for anything other than how much better you are then everyone else. Which we can see by your utter inability to find solution to anything else.

Its called self worship - your God is you. And you will never find fault with yourself because that would mean you would have to find a solution to a problem.

 

How do sceintists classify things? Do they ask frogs what family they belong to?

Your actions speak volumes, and your denial, see above, fool no one but yourself. Lot of that in your 'type'. Nah, your 'type' are all scientists and rationalists ... until someone challneges you - then you are angry little ... whatevers.

 

Complete jibberish.

Like I previously stated, I don't claim to have answers to the UNKNOWABLE. I understand this concept doesn't sit well with Christian types, as your concept of the unknown doesn't exist - a simple story for every complex question in life will do just fine for the bulk of you.

And of course I find pleanty of fault with myself; I am human after all and I've yet to meet a perfect one.

 

Ahhh, implied name calling - the backbone of every great Christian argument. Who challenged me by the way? I was called an atheist, which I'm not, and correct the statement. Have you, or anyone else, challenged my stance that i find it reasonable to claim that I don't have the answer to every question in life, and those who do are full of well...whatever?

 

'De mortuis nil nisi bunkum', said Aneurin Bevan. For an ex-member of the International Socialists who could bring himself to support the war-crime against Iraq and invent a political illiteracy like 'Islamo-fascist' I'm afraid nothing but bunkum will do, and condolences to all those who will miss him, naturally.

 

A fellow human being has died. A highly intelligent and articulate but flawed (and which of us is not) man, who gave us all much to think about, is no longer with us. The sum of humanity on earth is diminished by that much.

I find that almost as regrettable as the ungracious and unseemly exchanges in this thread. Has a sense of decency been completely subsumed by the desire to score ideological points?

"No farther seek his merits to disclose, nor draw his frailties from their dread abode ..."
Thomas Gray - Elegy Written in a Country Churchyard

 

The poster said they were better than someone else and wouldn't act like them while doing exactly what they painted the other person as doing. The particulars aren't necessary considerations. The poster is a hypocrite. Case closed.

Have you noticed in even a vague sense how much you paint all atheists as a whole collective group with a single broad brush? There is no more a 'standard' atheist than there is a standard Christian, Jew, Muslim, Democrat or Republican. I would suggest that if you want some measure of respect, you should try showing some. I understand some people that are atheists may have been rude to you in the past, and I don't expect you to sit there and take it placidly, but using that as an excuse to act in the same way to an entire group should be as unacceptable to you as it is to me or anyone else who has done nothing to you aside from not sharing your beliefs. Though, I do often wonder, especially in forums like these when 'turn the other cheek' became 'turnabout is fair play'.

Keeping that in mind, and since Mother Teresa has been brought up, you should be aware if you are not already that she was a confirmed atheist evidenced by authenticated letters and every time you use that broad brush to make some proclamation about all atheists you are in fact leveling that critique at her, yourself Every. Single. Time.

Please try and remember that the next time. Thanks.

 

It is easy to do. Watch this:

Atheist

Theist.

Whamo,


Now the interesting thing is this. In either broadly stroked brushing, people choose which stroke they desire to be placed in. All of the little sub-categories that seem to fall under those titles that were made with an extremely broad brush,, are also self made decisions which created conditions for one to be placed in those sub-categories. No-one forces the other to make those decisions. So, when one has tried on the various styles of shoe, and finds the one that is personally pleasing, and FITS, then the decision is again self made, and therefore puts the shoe on to wear it with pride and distinction. Those others then will recognize you because of the shoes that you wear.

 

Is his body not at rest?

It's certainly not active.

Have you ever written a post with any thought? Usually that's the sign of a troll... just saying.

A man died. Why are you trying to start an argument?

 

Yep, serially avoiding anything of discussion in order to make vaccuous claims and hyperbolic and hypocritical accussations is of course a much better way to do things.

Back bone of every great atheist claim - which is noticeable in its utter inability to actually make one - other then implied or obvious insults mind you.

Thesis - supporting evidence or arguementation ... why bother? The lot of you just responds to someone disagreeing with you like a cornered cat.

BTW - you don;t have ANY answers to the SUBJECT at hand. Yet you seem very interested in telling everyone else how screwed up they are. Nice, and very lame, excuse you wrote ther.

 

Because this particular man was highly disrespectful of a very respected and admired person when she passed away. Indeed, your peers are spreading the same malcious claims in the event of this death.

But no one is allowed to stand up to them. Gotcha.

 

you just did.

 

Really? He just did this, eh?

 

Again, as you have ignored the sum of my posts, and so let me just put int in a short form:

YOU said R.I.P., and I showed you that Rest In Peace was an early Catholic tern having to do with 'resting in peace with God!' That was an incorrect tern to use for an avowed atheist whose anti-God life was over.

As far as he was concerned, when he died he was just dead. His body would decay and that was that. Possibly one could use an atheist version of R.I.P. as Rest in Pieces, as the result of long term decay.

Sorry, but "I" cannot honor this man who did much harm to the lives of those who will end up rejecting God as he did, and end up separated from their creator. He was but a tool that the enemy used to take many with him to the pit.

Now if you dont capiche all of the above, that is your problem! Any more 1/2-line short follow ups will just be more trolling on your part...Goodnight....

 

I doubt that he did. like most people who are not believers, he was not really any more likely to fear death than most believers, and was pretty firm in his beliefs.

I heard an interview with him not long before he died, and what he seemed to focus on was what he was leaving behind ... he mentioned som eproverbe about planting a tree and having a son ... and something else, maybe building something. He said that he had thought about this and felt that he had achieved a great deal.

but he did say that he felt his time had come earlier than he would have liked - he would have liked to have seen his grandchildren, and also to enjoy life a bit longer.

 

you are just showing a lack of genuine faith when you feel the need to attack those who don't share your beliefs.

 

no ...

but then I generally don't believe alien abduction stories either.

 

Your self-righteous indignation has been duly noted.

I merely called a spade a spade. he is dead and it is over for him. No where in the scriptures does it say to pray for his deceased soul..he made his choices and has to pay the price. Just as you & I will also...

Sorry bleeding heart, but "It aint over til it's over," and it's over for him!

Sincerely wrong is still wrong...that tid-bit is for YOU......