Harvard to welcome kinky sex club for students

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  1. hopeless_in_2012

    hopeless_in_2012 New Member

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    I do understand why it bothers you now. What bothers me about your point of view is that it is very narrow. In general, people talk about things being immoral nut fail to realize that if everyone sat down and wrote out a list of what was immoral, the lists would all be different. What you find perverted, your neighbor finds fun. What you find gross, another enjoys. What you think is wrong, others find normal.
    The problem that comes from this is that we cannot cater to everyones morals because there is no such thing as everyones morals, we all have different beliefs. The only way we have the same set of morals is if someone forces our morals, then we end up like North Korea or something. Freedom is about being different and having the right to live by that instead of being held to someone else beliefs or morals.
     
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    hopeless_in_2012 New Member

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    Well at least have the decency to stop claiming any of these groups are getting our tax dollars unless you know that. Using the words grants does not mean the school got the money from grants, it means the money the are giving out are called grants.

    I have been looking over Harvards site and the only thing I have found pertaining to money being provided to these groups are endowments. Endowments are accounts that allow the group to spend funds earned in interest not the endowment itself. The site also says the gruops must earn the money to set up the endowment themselves with fundraisers or charitable contributions to the group. So in effect, the groups gather up a minimum $25,000 on their own and the school will take that money and set up an endowment fund which will give the group an interest income from then on out. I see nothing about grants but I am still looking.
     
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    I did find some info for grants they can qualify for, here is the list:

    Student organizations can use the Common Grant Application to apply for funding from the following granting bodies:

    Ann Radcliffe Trust
    Asia Center Student Organization
    Club Sports
    COOP Public Service
    DAPA (Drug and Alcohol Peer Advisers)
    Harvard Foundation for Intercultural and Race Relations
    Institute of Politics (IOP)
    Office for the Arts (OFA)
    President’s Public Service Fund (PPSF)
    Student Organization Center at Hilles (SOCH)
    UC Retroactive Grant
    UC Upfront Grant
     
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    I didn't say "your" morals, I said "those". If you include yourself in that group that is not my doing.

    My point is simply that this particular piece is yet another example of the type of thing that is eroding this country. You can say anything you wish to try to make any justifications you want. You can discuss minutia in detail in an attempt to justify it, but the point was, and remains that this is an example of the moral decay that the left tries so hard to force upon us all. That we must accept depravity, we must accept weirdos, we must accept kink, we must accept perversion, we must accept anything that goes against a basis of common decency that has been lived and defined for centuries all in the name of "tolerance" and lest you not agree, be prepared to be labelled a bigot, a hater or a racist.

    Why should a school of higher education sanction such a club? Why should it even be a question? Personal proclivities should be and remain just that. If you are into kinky sex, then wait till school is over at the end of the day, get together with your friends that are into it at one of your homes or apartments and do whatever it is you do on your time. Form your own club outside the institution even. Why do we have to have a sanctioned club for this at school? That is a place for education, not the local social scene for alternative sexual styles.
     
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    hopeless_in_2012 New Member

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    What is weird to some is normal to another. How do we decide whos morals to use? Do we use yours or mine or one of the other millions of people in this country?
    Myself I find it much weirder to worship a god that doesnt exist. I also believe that religion as a whole has created far more decay and death in this world than some college kid who likes to be spanked.
     
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    I didn't say "your" morals, I said "those". If you include yourself in that group that is not my doing.

    My point is simply that this particular piece is yet another example of the type of thing that is eroding this country. You can say anything you wish to try to make any justifications you want. You can discuss minutia in detail in an attempt to justify it, but the point was, and remains that this is an example of the moral decay that the left tries so hard to force upon us all. That we must accept depravity, we must accept weirdos, we must accept kink, we must accept perversion, we must accept anything that goes against a basis of common decency that has been lived and defined for centuries all in the name of "tolerance" and lest you not agree, be prepared to be labelled a bigot, a hater or a racist.

    Why should a school of higher education sanction such a club? Why should it even be a question? Personal proclivities should be and remain just that. If you are into kinky sex, then wait till school is over at the end of the day, get together with your friends that are into it at one of your homes or apartments and do whatever it is you do on your time. Form your own club outside the institution even. Why do we have to have a sanctioned club for this at school? That is a place for education, not the local social scene for alternative sexual styles.
     
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    hopeless_in_2012 New Member

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    OK, now I am going to put this all into context for you.

    I said:
    to which you replied:
    and now you say:
    It was completely clear that when I said you people were getting annoying that I meant I was annoyed not someone else. Then you reply that it is annoying to those without morals, and since the only person being annoyed we were talking about was me, then the comment was about me. So yes, you did mean I had no morals. At least I do not tell lies about what I said or meant.
     
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    For lack of a better word...you're full of it.

    Medicaid pays for abortions in 15 states... the Hyde Amendment, which currently forbids the use of federal funds for abortions except in cases of life endangerment, rape or incest, has guided public funding for abortions under the joint federal-state Medicaid programs for low-income women.

    Your tax dollars fund Medicaid.

    Spin that all you want, but those are the facts.
     
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    pragueman New Member Past Donor

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    So you don't think sex is important to talk about? Do you think baseball or checkers or ping-pong is more important than sex?
     
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    Like the man said "If you gotta ask then you ain't ever gonna know."

    Sex comes naturally to some people and they do not need group therapy to iron out the kinks in their mental health and others do.

    Libs who believe in anything goes have a few more kinks to work out than normal people do.
     
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    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    UMMM well (*)(*)(*)(*). What the hell do you think "hasty pudding" and "skull and bones" are? They sure as hell haven't been around for more than a century for nothing. that rules out the "New World Order" too.
    The people in this club have been left out. They had to do something.

    Harvard and Yale and Princeton are the place to be indoctrinated into your fathers cabal. Not denied access to wannabe nookie.
     
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    pragueman New Member Past Donor

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    I don't think this is group therapy. I think it's people talking about what they like and what works well for them in the bedroom. I'm sure it's about exploring and finding new things. What's wrong with that? Why are you guys so uptight? If students want to create a group about this and they enjoy it, why not leave them alone? Where is the fascination and obsession in other people's lives come from.
    You are the one that is asking. You see that right? It's you all that have a problem with what other people do in their free time. No one is asking you or anyone else to join their group. If they enjoy it and it enriches their (sex) lives, why not just leave them alone?
     
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    Conservatives may need help with their golf swing and need to seek the advice of an expert but sex comes naturally and they don't feel the need to sit around talking about it.
     
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    You need to get out more.

    Everyone decrying this should be required to submit their computer to a neutral third party and have it examined for evidence of BSDM porn.
     
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    What is the issue, these people are GOING to be seriously important in society due to their money or minds or connections made OR all three and as members of the elite they have the rights of an elite. Plus as a common guy I don't mind kinky sex I'm not a religious person so if they are not hurting anyone but each other voluntarily what is the big deal?
     
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    Have you organised the pitchfork and torch distribution yet? WTF is the problem with this? Are conservatives suddenly having an attack of moral outrage and self-righteousness or something? Perhaps a little self-examination might be in order, unless you lot want to be labelled as hypocrites. Oh, and like most clubs, I doubt that membership of this one is mandatory; so don't worry, your sacrosanct sphincter is safe.
     

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