The true knowledge about God

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  1. dattaswami

    dattaswami New Member

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    The true knowledge about God

    You should not say that God is incapable of preaching the characteristics of God and that it shows only the ignorance about God. Most of the people are thinking God as imaginable item like awareness, all pervading energy, visible light, inert matter etc. Negating all these possibilities and establishing the true unimaginable nature of God itself is the perfect and complete knowledge of God. By realizing completely that God is unimaginable, you have attained the true knowledge of God. Nobody other than God can understand God (Brahamavit Brahmaiva….Veda).

    Therefore, God is not ignorant Himself. The inability to understand God belongs to the limited scope of intelligence of human being and it is not due to incapable explanation of God. A blind man can never see any object, however much it may be explained. The defect lies with the blind man and not with the preacher. The intelligence of any human being cannot cross the spatial dimensions and can never imagine God, the generator of space, existing beyond space without spatial dimensions. The reason for not understanding God is also clearly explained by God. Therefore, God is the best preacher of the ultimate truth and the main purpose of human incarnation is only to preach the true spiritual knowledge, which alone can save any human being in the ultimate sense.





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  2. GraspingforPeace

    GraspingforPeace Well-Known Member

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    Man, you just posted a lot of threads in a very short amount of time. One constant them I see is that you keep claiming that God is unimaginable. What do you mean when you say this? Your posts are filled with fluff that makes it hard to pin down what you mean, specifically, when you say God is unimaginable.
     
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    I agree in the fact that I am a human being with limited understanding of the universe.

    One thing I do know is however with my small intellect; I would not create living beings to watch them suffer in pain and agony when I had the power to stop it, and that is something this alleged God does.

    To me, something acting with goodness and kindness does not deliberately create agony & pain, and it does not deliberately watch living being suffer in pain and agony if it can stop it.

    Hell bells, even mere human doctors and nurses try to alleviate pain and suffering, not deliberately cause it, or stand idly by watching it without trying to help.

    When these facts are taken into consideration, what does it say about an evil omnipotent monster roaming the Universe that likes to deliberately create and cause agony, pain and suffering to other sentient and non sentient life forms?

    To me, it represents a spoilt uncontrollable little brat, who likes to pick the wings off flies for its owns perverse amusement.

    Now that is something I will never worship or never respect!!
     
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    Jesus taught that Truth can correspond one-to-one with God, who is this ever unfolding Reality so mysterious and strange that otherwise, we could not image it in our mind.

    By the Grace of the Reality within which man is both trapped and nurtured, Truth has been sired in its wake from moment to moment.
    It is that Truth which is our savior and messiah:

    John 14:6 "I am the Truth, and the way, and the life."
     
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    He means the same as the Jews, who said God is ineffable\le. beyond description, until Jesus revealed God as Reality.
    Then we understood that Truth is the messiah which saves us, and Truth sets us free from the abuse of the Natural laws we might (and have previously) ignored and violated.
     
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    And so truly believes every other psychopath on planet earth. :roflol:
     
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    So if god is unimaginable... Why try to imagine it?
     
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    You should not blame God that He is unable to make us understand the unimaginable God. So far we are thinking that we are able to understand God after doing lot of penance. This wrong knowledge is removed by God and today, you understood that you can never understand God. This point is also supported by the absence of spatial dimensions of God.

    By this, scientists need not think that the unimaginable God beyond space does not exist at all. The genuine miracles, which are unimaginable events, exhibited by unimaginable source called as God, establish the existence of unimaginable entity and it is supported by the point that such unimaginable God is beyond space being the creator of space.
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    But HE comes in human form to give His presence to us. He is called Human incarnation of God..Only way to see the unimaginable God


    The absolute God is unimaginable. We cannot imagine Him or see Him. He is beyond our comprehension. He is beyond the worldly logic. Such GOD created this world for His entertainment. The creation is only His dream. Thus creation is His imagination. The creation is negligible or nothing compared to God or almost nil or only God is said to be truly existing or THE TRUTH.

    Such God enters into His own creation (own imagination) by selecting the most suitable soul existing in the creation known as Son of God to give His presence to us, preach, and uplift us through divine knowledge. He is known as Human Incarnation and we can see Him, touch Him, co-live with Him and clear all our doubts. Whoever see Son of God has seen the invisible God existing in Him. This is the only way to see and serve the unimaginable God.

    Such God comes to this world in human form to preach divine knoweldge to uplift the humanity. I have come down to preach the divine knowledge to uplift you. Read all My divine knowledge.

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    Nobody sees God. God is not touched even by imagination. How can we see God? God enters some medium and becomes visible through that medium (through Lord in human form or Son of God). Through that medium also you are experiencing only the existence God. Only experience of existence is possible. There is no way to see God directly. The current cannot be seen directly. When it flows in a wire only its existence can be experienced.


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    When such God comes in human form here in this earth you can see Him, meet Him. He can be identified from His excellent divine knoweldge.

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  9. Stagnant

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    Ugh, isn't there someone else you can annoy? We get enough pseudo-intellectual claptrap like this from Cupid Dave and DennisTate.
     
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    If God is such an enigma that he is unimaginable and unknowable, why would he be worthy of any worship? How would you know that you are not worshipping evil incarnate? What would lead you to have any kind of warm and fuzzy feeling about something you can ascertain nothing about?
     
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    DennisTate Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Stagnant......do you think that I am thoroughly in error to suspect that the Helen Wambach Ph. D. research on visions of past lives.....that show that men come back as women and vice verse......has amazing potential to convince fundamentalist religious men........to not attempt to use violence to force their wives and daughters to mindlessly obey them.........once they find out that what they do could well come back to haunt them in a later lifetime?????!!!!

    Her research fits well with NDE accounts:

    (Christian Andreason, chapter 5)
    http://www.allaboutchristian.com/spirituality/index.html
     
  12. JOJO50

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    [I]Jesus basically said that ANY who wants to live forever, must not ONLY get to know him ,but HIS FATHER , (John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent). But how can one take in the “true knowledge of God”. When they even REFUSE to acknowledge he has a name? MANY today i've read called him “I AM” , (Exo. 3:14), because this is what he told Moses to tell his people. The God of Israel KNEW that WASN'T a name. And he ALSO knew his people have been taught and have been worshiping for centuries. Most likely he meant I am the God that you've been worshiping. Because after the Exodus ,God told Moses his name, (Exo. 6:3 And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them) ,so that Moses can reveal it to his people.

    Jesus even made known his Father's name to those who were already worshiping his Father, but didn't know his name ,(John 17:6-8). MANY will pray to God, NOT using his name. But he gave his name for a reason. When people say...” I worship God” we have to understand, there are MANY gods. But Jehovah is the ONLY REAL God. And he's the ONLY ONE who sent a SON to save us ,(1Cor. 8:5,6 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many) , But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him). Then there are those who believe Jesus is GOD and one we should pray to. But Jesus told US the opposite ,(Matt. 6:9 After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name).

    Jesus told us that if we DON'T do HIS Father's WILL, we're NOT his spiritual family ,(Matt. 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother). And EVEN if we call on HIM ,(Jesus), We WON'T make it the God's kingdom ,(Matt. 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven). And lastly he said if ANY who claim to worship God, but doesn't do his WILL. Their prayers won't be heard ,(John 9:31 Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth). There's a REASON, why ALL should pray to Jesus Father ,using his Name. It's because it LET'S others know who's serving the true God.

    It is to happen today, as it did in the days of old. And it should happen when satan wicked system ,(including people who refuse to do Jehovah's will), through the new Godly system, which means FOREVER! MANY should understand Jesus was NEVER to be prayed to, neither was Mary! Mary was JUST a righteous woman who Jehovah CHOSED to carried the one who would save mankind. And Jesus was the one who would be that man. Jesus GOES to his Father for us, because we're imperfect and can't touch his Father, he is our mediator ,(1 Tim. 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus). This is what Jesus meant when he said at ,(John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me). This is why we end our prayers with... “in Jesus name”. peace[/I]
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    You would be thoroughly in error to think anyone has shown that. Its fine to suspect it, if one wishes to suspect.

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    Do you know a screed from a scrod?

    A scrod is digestible. A screed isnt.

    For one thing, it would have to be read first, and few will do that.
     
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    Very funny!!!

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    I have to kind of giggle at your thought process.
    God is unimaginable.
    Now let me tell you the many things about God that I believe to be true.
     

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