N.Y. Times scraps AIPAC from Syria story

PNAC..

Richard Perle (Hindu)

Elliott Abrams (Sikh)

Others worth mentioning...

Douglas Feith (Catholic)

Michael Ledeen (Muslim)

Scooter Libby (Buddist)

Charles Krauthammer (Protestant)

Stephen Bryen (Rastafarian)

David Frum (Church of the Latter Day Saints)

David Wurmser (Amish)

Dov Zakheim (Another Muslim)

Henry Kissenger (Native American).

Norman Podhoretz (RC)

John Podhoretz (Another Buddist).

 

Oh God not two JOOZ!!!

Elliott Abrams
Gary Bauer
William J. Bennett
Jeb Bush
Dick Cheney
Eliot A. Cohen
Midge Decter
Paula Dobriansky
Steve Forbes
Aaron Friedberg
Francis Fukuyama
Frank Gaffney
Fred C. Ikle
Donald Kagan
Zalmay Khalilzad
I. Lewis Libby
Norman Podhoretz
Dan Quayle
Peter W. Rodman
Stephen P. Rosen
Henry S. Rowen
Donald Rumsfeld
Vin Weber
George Weigel
Paul Wolfowitz

http://www.newamericancentury.org/statementofprinciples.htm

It would seem that those sneaky Jews are outnumbered.

 

With surnames like that lot?

 

Um where is your source that these people are members of PNAC? Because I'm not seeing half of them on this member list:

http://www.reasoned.org/e_PNAC2.htm

 

Yes because you can tell who is Jewish by their name.

 

Unless they change it as usual. Still, there are back up methods.

 

The majority of the names on there are not Jewish, Jews are outnumbered by gentiles within the ranks of PNAC, half of the names on the list you provided are not even members of PNAC according to the member list which I provided of contributors, tell us which website you got your list off of? Why no link?

 

Link?

Those were names from memory alone.

PNAC was founded by a Jew. Neo Conservatism was founded by a Jew. In proportion to the number of Jews there are in the US, they are massively over represented on that list. Massively.

It was you who brought PNAC into it fella!

 

Which would be the reason that they are not even members/contributors of PNAC but your owned made up nonsense:

http://www.reasoned.org/e_PNAC2.htm

So they hell what?

Most of the original neoconservatives were not Jewish; such as Daniel Patrick Moynihan, and Jean Kirkpatrick.

They are outnumbered by non-Jews, and those who have had the most influence on foreign policy are non-Jews EG Cheney and Rumsfeld. Yes there are many Jews inside the intelligentsia, perish the thought.

And your assertions regarding PNAC are fallacious, it is not Israeli controlled or Jewish dominated and regardless the Democratic Peace Theory which our foreign policy is today based long predates the existence of PNAC or even neoconservatism all together in fact it has its origins with Immanuel Kant and Thomas Paine, both rabid neo-Zionists and Ultraorthodox Jews I'm sure.

 

It was you who brought PNAC into it fella.

Not me.

I just pointed out some facts, and you don't like it because it turned out to be an own goal for you.

 

Forgery ?

 

Some like to claim the Protocol of Zion as a forgery to escape the racist ideology otherwise espoused in it. Which would be fine, if it weren't for the fact....

http://www.pray4zion.org/TheJewsGodschosenpeople.html

They make the statements on a daily basis. Which implies it's a thought process they concur and agree with.

 

We don't need the 'Protocols of Zion'.

All we need to do is LOOK AT THE WORLD.

No need to debate about a book written a century or so ago. Scarily accurate that it may be, for sure. All we need do is look at the here and now.

The book must have either been a fortunate guess of astronomical proportions, or a 'prophecy', or ......

 

Which people ? I never met any of 'em/

 

Nah, to be fair there are more than the media let you know about.

Let me put it like this. Imagine Al Capone owned all of the media. How do you think Al Capone media would represent Al Capone? And how do you think Al Capone media would represent righteous people that tried to get in Al Capone's way?

 

Thats your oversimplification "strawman" of the situation . If you believe that the U.S is interested in democracy ANYWHERE then you ( for whatever reason) have ignored the method behind the madness that the U.S and allies have been executing in the region since the early 50's. This isnt just JOOZ..it isnt just the military industrial complex... and it isnt just oil corporations, it isnt just Shia vs Sunni , it isnt just the U.S government.. it isnt just China and Russia government.. it isnt just Europe. It is a combination of all of them. They all have their own vested interests..and none of those interests include the wellbeing of the American people first and foremeost.

 

Apparently most Mid-Eastern Muslims think that the Palestinians got and are continuing to get a raw deal, but the US continues to control their leaders, elite kings and dictators, on Israel's behalf, with carrots and sticks. This situation might not last forever. Victor Hugo said "Armies cannot stop an idea whose time has come." He was probably right, and the idea of democracy has come to the Mid-East, whether the US or Israel like it or not, even if the generals in Egypt have managed to hang on to power.

Saudi Arabia and other Muslim countries have said that they would protect Israel's sovereignty if it moved back to pre-1948 borders, and even if the Arab states reneged on this, the rest of the UN would undoubtedly come to Israel's aid if it were threatened. If it's true that not even atomic bombs can stop an idea whose time has come it might behoove Israel to stop relying on force and try to make friends with the Arab people, not just their rulers. I'm not really holding out any hope for this, though.

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Syria is still under Assad and that looks like damage from aerial bombardment and heavy artillary, likely from the Assad regime.

 

We are frequently the ones who bring it, and have insisted upon it for years.

 

"You" have insisted on democracy "whether they want it or not " - good one..............

 

In 1953 the US and England overthrew the President of Iran, Dr. Mohammed Mossadegh, the only democratically-elected Muslim leader in the Mid-East, and installed the Shah.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ajax#U.S._role
Recently, US CENTCOM stood by and watched the generals in Egypt overthrow the democratically elected president.
Meanwhile the US aids and abets the repressive elite royalty of Saudi Arabia and other kings, emirs, and dictators.
What am I missing here?

 

Democratically elected Morsi of the [Muslim Brotherhood = Ikhwan al Muslimin] representing less than one million members manages to crown himself President of Egypt out of 82 Million Egyptians... Even if you come to the conclusion that 41 millions abstained from voting we still have another 41 millions to account for... Democratically elected my left foot.

 

The OP is wrong -- the NYT didn't hide or scrap anything.
http://publiceditor.blogs.nytimes.c...f-a-quotation-has-a-mundane-explanation/?_r=0

And just for proof -- here's the original story with the AIPAC reference intact, still online in the NYT archives, where it's supposed to be.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/02/world/middleeast/syria.html?pagewanted=2

Freakin' paranoiacs.