What a courageous lady, standing up for a peaceful minority - Muslims!

Muslim girls dancing and singing in front of millions of people. How warm and fuzzy, just makes my heart bleed, and a tear roll down my cheek.

Women/girls within the Islamic faith are considered less valuable than livestock, so its logical to conclude any Muslim family wouldn't give a rats arse or have much concern about what Muslims women/girls do within a Western society - within reason.

Did you see any Muslim boys dancing and singing?

 

I sometimes wonder what stops your head from caving in. I know that nothing we say will change your view, that's how bigotry works, the thing is I don't post to change your views, that would be pointless. I post so that people can see that yours is not the only view. You make it quite clear you don't want to even live in Australia. You are constantly denigrating Australians as being stupid as if you are the greatest mind to walk the earth. I have realised that you, AT and AM and others will never change, why should you you are perfect
You know something in all honesty, from what you are constantly saying about Australia and it's people, I would trade you for a bus load of Muslim refugees because those I know are more Australian then you could ever be based on your posts here.

 

Did you see any Muslim boys dancing and singing, or just girls?

You need to address your tangents by the way, and your constant inability to keep focused. Its very noticeable.

Please keep posting, as I use your comments as a tool for teaching my students what NOT to do when debating or communicating professionally.

 

Seriously, DV no longer hides the racism.

In a Thread created to demonstrate racism over religious ideals he comes up with this little nugget

So DV states a trade over several Muslims over you because they are supposed to be MORE nationalised than you...

Well CD, apparently YOU are either equal or lower than the lowest according to DV... Who would take a bus load of people HATED by him over YOU because that is DV's preference and that would be Muslims (the people proposed to be defended in these threads).

I have noticed in these threads about Muslim extremism and racial vilification are that those who want to pretend they are holly than thou and far more superior in these matters that show the clearest racism.

I wonder how long it is, now that others are starting to reply to demonstrate their racism they show before they run and hide under the bed as usual???
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What is really frightening to someone like myself, is that the actions and behaviour of people like DV is very reminiscent of the fanatical Catholics back in the Middle Ages. Anyone who doesn't believe in their holier than now attitude that Muslims are the next best thing to sliced bread, are automatically condemned as racists and witches.

These simpleton do-gooders and bleeding hearts ignore that the Muslims they are protecting, and think are better than sliced bread, are racist and discriminatory towards anyone who is not of the Islamic faith.

At least I don't want to stone a woman to death or burn her alive for committing adultery, unlike the the Islamic religion these do-gooder and bleeding hearts want to protect and encourage.

But I'm the racist. I'm the Nazi. I'm the French spy.

You could just imagine these do-gooder and bleeding heart idiots having a serious wonky arm moment, if I was the one proposing the same discriminatory and racist things against women and other individuals that the Islamic religion does.

 

If you want a couple of high profile examples of Muslims playing cricket with non-muslims... Moeen Ali and Fawad Ahmed. Then of course there's the IPL in general...

Most people have no problem with this, expect apparently culldav, and presumably ISIS.

If Australian Christians can generally refrain from burning witches, massacring ethnic minorities and forcing children to become soldiers or sex slaves like some of their African counterparts, then I have no reason not to think that Australian Muslims can generally refrain from beheading infidels and so on.

I'm not making "excuses" for anything. If Christians or Muslims actually followed their holy books word for word, we'd all be dead already. Luckily for all of us, they don't.

 

You're apparently a racist DV, I mean LRL!..... Hey, you're no Robinson Crusoe, I am too apparently

 

Yep, the ol' 'do-gooder, bleeding heart' catchcry.

And they say it like it's a bad thing! LOL!!

They underestimate / belittle the 'capacity to care'... on account of how they've had their heads and hearts sucked out of them... rendering them 'crusty old nit-wits'.

 

Yes, and who might you be?

 

You first.

 

I'm a crusty old nitwit.

 

There are lots of stupid people, and it's those which need the most help. If people don't help them they'll just keep making the same stupid mistakes. It's not about ego. Ignorance also comes with age, so older people sometimes have knowledge of experience which younger people are less likely to have. Does it upset you that other people might be 'smarter' then you or have more knowledge about something!? There are plenty of things I know nothing about.... now need to be upset when someone who might know more tells you your wrong. Don't get your knickers in a knot.

Anyway, back to the topic. The ex-PM has summed up my thoughts nicely about Islam, and said yesterday;

""We've got to work closely with live-and-let-live Muslims because there needs to be, as president [Abdel Fattah] Al-Sisi of Egypt has said, a religious revolution inside Islam."
"All of those things that Islam has never had — a Reformation, an Enlightenment, a well-developed concept of the separation of church and state — that needs to happen.
"But we can't do it; Muslims have got to do this for themselves. But we should work with those who are pushing in that direction.
"All cultures are not equal and, frankly, a culture that believes in decency and tolerance is much to be preferred to one which thinks that you can kill in the name of God, and we've got to be prepared to say that.""

And anyone who argues against that is defending a diseased politic-religio ideology which has violent sectarianism integral to it, at least in my thematic analysis.

 

Big Tone got that right.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fawad_Ahmed

That is the funniest thing I have read in some time, thanks.

Hope you don't mind, but I would like to use part of this as my first students assignment in 2016. Its an absolute classic.

 

Capacity to care???

Do-gooders talk about how everybody should be like them, and accept everything others do because your so called claim of empathy, right up until it is they that have to give up something OR are affected by such. When you talk about religious persecution against Muslims you and pretending to be accepting because you think you know something about it, you persecute Christianity to demonstrate YOUR supposed "capacity to care".

The fact of the matter is that while you have really no true understanding of EITHER religion, you clearly demonstrate a lack of “capacity to care”. While this thread was created to demonstrate some tolerance of the people of Islam, the truth Is, that it demonstrates exactly the opposite because it is people such as YOU who are categorising people to be Muslim, Christian, Hindu, etc, etc while attempting to show how tolerant you are compared to everybody else…

Now while you attack people over being labelled, you continue to reaffirm that title NOT because you have a “capacity to care”. No it is because you PRETEND you have a “capacity to care” and if anybody does not agree with you, they are racist, bias, and whatever else you care to judge them at.

Problem is, with the demonstration of YOUR “capacity to care” it is YOUR credibility that is lost every time you try to defend such comment.

 

My question is - where are all these moderate Muslims Iman's and moderate Muslim people pushing for revolution and enlightenment within Islam, because I don't see them?

Its one thing to state the obvious and say that Islam needs a separating from church and state, but its another thing to just arbitrarily say when this will occur.

Anyone who agrees that killing; brutalising; discrimination and racism against another individual in the name of the religion they follow is acceptable behaviour, then they should NOT be allowed into Australia - PERIOD.

 

This should make any Australian feel totally ashamed. Australians can find homes and property for foreign refugees, but these same homes and properties are not good enough to home the 300,000 Australia homeless, or the 800,000 low income families waiting on public housing lists.

I would seriously like to know what has happened to the mentality in Australia, whereby Australians now prefer to house foreign refugees before their own homeless and destitute poor citizens?

Is some kind of cultural and self loathing occurring?

http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/news...as-been-approved/story-fngr8h4f-1227637924552

 

Now DV, You have to stop standing up for the homeless and poor of Australia. Apparently your nationalism is not conducive to such and frankly there is no political expediency or themes to be made by such.

After all, Australia has always known about the poor in Australia and are prepared to support policy that creates dependency on government so they can keep their cushy jobs. I constantly point out the hypocrisy of these drones but they continue to show that ignorance while claiming they understand the situation...

Apparently it is only important when they can make something look like they personally care when the fact they shun REAL issues in their own community that demonstrates the truth... And they wonder why they are called pretenders…

 

I think it's time somebody got a la"bottomy". Isn't that a procedure where they actually remove somebodies arse from their mouth????

 

What is the matter TV??? All you have is this??? And you wonder why nobody is doing anything about the spamming of this part of the forum... It would seem that when you have nothing all you can do is resort to attempt at insult, Oh wait, that is all the time.

I wonder if people actually started to talk about policies and debate regulations, in the Australian section, will some of the moderators actually decide it might be worthwhile to rid the forum of the trash. But why bother when generally the majority simply see this section as a place to insult anybody and everybody they can. It appears that this section of the forum has some sort of score level that if you can insult x amount of people you win a prize… Maybe they believe that prize is credibility in discussion with others, I don’t know.

All I do know is that discussion and debate about policies and government is completely devoid in this section of the forum. It appears that most simply wish to throw their ignorance out for the world to see and expect others to bow down to their greater knowledge of insult… But we already know this about you...

 

Too busy playing the victim card to take responsibility;

Islamic Council of Victoria spokesman Kuranda Seyit said the comments had caused offence, particularly the suggestion that Islam was culturally inferior.

"Islam is a religion of decency and has, equally to any other religion in the world, the highest moral standards which we uphold," he said.

"For him [Mr Abbott] to suggest there is a problem in that area, I think, is grossly disrespectful to the people of Islam and the followers of Islam."

Kuranda Seyit went on to acknowledge some members of the Islamic community needed to change.

"Unfortunately there are some people within the community who want to go back towards the original concept of Islam," he said.

"That's where I think, sometimes, you have that clash within the Muslim community between the old guard and the new guard."

No Kuranda, its because you need to make a clear disction between the 'original concept of Islam' as you put it, and whatever it is you think the moderate Islam is. Muslim's are the only ones who can draw that line hard in the sand, and at the moment all you do is whinge and stick your head in the sand.

 

Toughen up old fella and stop being so sensitive. You just have some deluded concept of discussing policy. If we were to base "your" concept on what is policy discussion is, you are further down in the gutter than any of us. Ultimately you want to address menial little nuances that have no bearing on overall discussions and with quirky patronisation and pontification. Stop being weird and get on with having your say instead of being a bigot!

 

Sensitive??? No, thought you might be interested in what others see, unfortunately that was missed upon you...

"Deluded concept of discussing policy", yes I guess to you if you focus on what and how a policy works, the intent of the policy and the impact of such, which would be deluded to you. Not just if it is ALP/Greens or Coalition policy to either support or oppose... here again, any discussion??? No, just another attempt at insult.

And well "bigot", I believe everybody in the world can see who is what on these pages... In my opinion, your racism and bigotry stands demonstrated…


Further to the point of why the spamming is not addressed in this section of the forum...

 

Everyone is personal in our section.

 

You must be Abbott's bro, always on the attack against Muslim.
You must be happy that the boats have been stopped, not to prevent from drownings, but to keep the Muslims out.
Never heard you or like minded stand up (especially on this forum) against those terrible child molesters, protected by their own, the church.
You know the good ones you find in so many churches around the globe. The ones Abbott and others are dooming elite........................
Regards