The Earth is Flat

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  1. jrr777

    jrr777 Well-Known Member

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    Can you show me one of these satellites? And why would somebody spend so much money for communications, when it is cheaper and more reliable right here on earth? Who said anything about two dimensional? Your data from your cell phone is done through cell towers, not satellites. There are no satellites orbiting space, if there was, this could be proven by using a satellite further out than the rest. It would seem somebody told you they put satellites out there, and they are going around the earth, and you believed them.
     
  2. Cosmo

    Cosmo Well-Known Member

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    There are a large portion of manmade satellites that can be seen with the naked eye.
    Sightings can number up to a hundred in a single night if you have good viewing conditions.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually, I did the same thing you can do tonight. I looked up at the night sky and physically saw with my eyes a tiny little star moving quickly through the night sky. I have also seen the ISS space station when it was in my view, which also relies on the same realities to maintain its orbit and is shown on websites as to where it will be and when....YOU can go online and verify it yourself, not that you will. When you make a local call the information does indeed go through a local cell tower. How do you imagine a call to London gets connected?

    *Hint* It is not magic.
     
  4. dairyair

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    That is his claim. We are all being lied to. Because if the earth is NOT flat. The bible is wrong. And in his mind, the bible can't be wrong. He wants to see the pillars the earth is supported upon.
     
  5. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    Then go to the empire state building with a telescope and look over the ocean to Europe. You can easily see Europe if the earth is flat.
     
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    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    What a troll.
    Use your eyes. Then a brain, borrow if need be.
    http://www.spaceanswers.com/astronomy/how-many-manmade-satellites-can-you-see-with-the-naked-eye/

    Get a telescope, and view it up close.

    I get my TV signal from a satellite. I have a dish on the ground pointing at a specific location in the sky. If I move the direction it points, I lose the signal. Explain that with fiber optics.
     
  7. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    To him London doesn't exist. That is why you can't see it from New York with a telescope. It is a fake city. We've been lied into believing there is actually a Europe.
     
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    50-100 people keeping the secret. Surely you troll.
    Are you trying to tell us that there are only 50-100 people that know how to develop the real communications. Cell phones, satellite TV, world wide internet? Those who design and build them don't know what they actually build and the technology they use and the components they interact with.

    That is simply ludicrous.
    Trolling.

    I get my TV signal from a satellite. I have a dish on the ground pointing at a specific location in the sky. If I move the direction it points, I lose the signal. Explain that with fiber optics.
     
  9. tecoyah

    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh....that's right, I had neglected to consider the depths of this individuals delusion.

    Silly me, hopefully the server for this forum is located in the United States.....otherwi****.......
     
  10. jrr777

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    Are you kidding me. Those who design and build communications do not need to know anything that the buyer is going to do. If somebody buys a car, does the distributer need to know what they are doing with it? No. They just need to keep making the cars.
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I see....yet they do need to know if it works. Every company that makes a thing, do so because they can sell it. If that thing does not work they will be unable to sell it and may be sued into bankruptcy. Interestingly they do not suffer this fate because the items work. Also...speaking of cars. Have you ever heard of a Ferrari? These vehicles are not made in America and must be shipped across an ocean for us to even see one in person...I have had the pleasure of driving one and amazingly it ran....very fast. How could I have done so? Was it a figment of my imagination.
    Do IPhones actually even exist? Wouldn't there need to be a China to make them in? Is China also a made up creation, and if so where do Chinese people come from?
     
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    You know nothing about design and what it has to interface with, do you.

    BTW - mr dodger aka troller, what about my satellite signal?
     
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    :roflol::roflol:

    150 people!!

    There are more people than that working in the canteen at NASA! Let alone all the other space agencies around the world
     
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    They do need to know that you are intending to drive it as opposed to say - fly it around and take pictures of a flat earth

    Which do not exist BTW

    Okay - now explain please why radio signals do not go around the earth

    Why there is signal delay with satellites
     
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    Good heavens, it is physically painful to me that this is a debate. This was barely a debate in medieval times, or with Columbus. Gah.
     
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    To me it does not make any difference whether the earth is round or flat. There are as you have said some evidences the earth is round but I cannot however believe it 100 percent.
     
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    It's been known that the Earth is a sphere since the time of the ancient Greeks.
    It's an established scientific fact.
    - - - Updated - - -
     
  18. jrr777

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    Radio waves are a type of electromagnetic radiation with wavelengths in the electromagnetic spectrum longer than infrared light. Radio waves have frequencies from 3 THz to as low as 3 kHz, and corresponding wavelengths ranging from 100 micrometers (0.0039 in) to 100 kilometers (62 mi). Like all other electromagnetic waves, they travel at the speed of light. Naturally occurring radio waves are made by lightning, or by astronomical objects. Artificially generated radio waves are used for fixed and mobile radio communication, broadcasting, radar and other navigation systems, communications satellites, computer networks and innumerable other applications. Radio waves are generated by radio transmitters and received by radio receivers. Different frequencies of radio waves have different propagation characteristics in the Earth's atmosphere; long waves can diffract around obstacles like mountains and follow the contour of the earth (ground waves), shorter waves can reflect off the ionosphere and return to earth beyond the horizon (skywaves), while much shorter wavelengths bend or diffract very little and travel on a line of sight, so their propagation distances are limited to the visual horizon.

    To prevent interference between different users, the artificial generation and use of radio waves is strictly regulated by law, coordinated by an international body called the International Telecommunications Union (ITU), which defines radio waves as "electromagnetic waves of frequencies arbitrarily lower than 3 000 GHz, propagated in space without artificial guide".[1] The radio spectrum is divided into a number of radio bands on the basis of frequency, allocated to different uses.

    I think your question should be, if radio waves can bounce off the ionosphere and other high altitude attributes, what are the high dollar, tax money satellites for? And where are they?
     
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    Sounds like you have no idea what your talking about. November 15 1892, Gleasons New Standard Map of the World was introduced. Proven scientifically and practically correct as it is, with applications made in England, Canada, France, Denmark, Sweden, Germany, and Austria.

    Go ahead, take a look.
    https://www.digitalcommonwealth.org/search/commonwealth:7h149v85z
     
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    Hop on a plane. Keep taking flights west (or east or north or south, take your pick). If you can plot a course back to where you are now (hint: of course you (*)(*)(*)(*)ing can), then the earth is round. If you look out of your airplane window and see the that you've flown off of the edge of the earth, then it is flat. Let us know how it goes.
     
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    Use your own head and not what others say. Yes they have to build them as if they were to fly in space. That does not mean they will be flying in space. Can you comprehend that.
     
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    Cosmo is right. The ancient Greeks (and they may not have even been the first) developed tests to prove that the earth is round. You can repeat them if you like.
     
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    This is the behavior of my child. If I gave you all the parts and instructions to assemble them, you just have to put it together, nobody needs to know what is truly going on. Is this something you cannot comprehend?
     
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    What I have difficulty comprehending would be the astounding lack of ability you possess to acknowledge reality even when placed right in front of you. I am torn between hoping you are trolling and enjoying the reactions, and accepting you are actually what you are showing yourself to be.

    Admiration for creativity.....or pity for ignorance and neural deficiency.
     
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    Sounds like you have a problem separating fact from fiction
     

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