Donald Trump, who never served in the military, goes after Senate veterans

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    That won't happen because Dump has the emotional maturity of a spoiled 3 year old....and he has no intelligent understanding of the issues which makes him go all pouty when challenged........
     
  2. Seth Bullock

    Seth Bullock Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Even though I voted for Trump, and I am sick of John McCain, that statement he made about McCain was offensive and made me cringe. I think he does respect those who serve, though, in general.
     
  3. nra37922

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    Could NOT have phrased it better....:clapping: THANKS

    Being a veteran DOES NOT give one a pass if being a sh!thead as a civilian.
     
  4. wolfin

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    Senator Bloomenthal didn't make a misstatement about his service. He lied as surely as Hillary lied about taking sniper fire.

    I don't think Trump was disparaging veterans. He was counter attacking one who lied about his service in Vietnam and another with whom he has a grudge. Worse, Trump earlier in effect called McCain a loser for being captured. Trump was wrong to attack McCain that way, but we all know he over reacts.

    I served for four years and encountered some hostility when I returned home. Bill Clinton dodged the draft and lied to the authorities. No one cared then, because Bill was sexy to women and a good speaker. He inocculated me against hostility toward draft dodgers because they escaped military service. If they disparage veterans or service people as a class, I get angry. Trump was only going after two men.
     
  5. mdrobster

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    In the link, they have to be born on UK soil. Section 4.
    Subject to the provisions of this section, every person born within the United Kingdom and Colonies after the commencement of this Act shall be a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies by birth:

    This is closed, 5th time!!!
     
  6. JakeJ

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    No, McCain said any American personnel who die in combat were failures. He wants to make sure all their family members who lose a loved one in military service know the death was pointless and wasted. As president, he would have sent letters notifying of the death reading, "I regret to inform you that your son/daughter died a pointless violent death for which he caused the mission to fail..."
     
  7. wolfin

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    I agree with you, Apacharat.I will go further. Kerry and his anti- war activities were only a small part of the left's attempt to help North Vietnam. General Giap, I think said they won the war on American college campuses, and he was right. We won battles when it counted, but at home, we lost the will to go on. After Democrats took Congress when Nixon left, they cut off aid to South Vietnam. The North was testing the waters and to their shock it all fell apart before them.

    I met some boat people years later, and I still blame the Democrats, Kerry, and others who helped create their tragedy.
     
  8. wolfin

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    A platoon leader in Vietnam gathered his men together after some one was shot or stepped on a mine. He explained what mistake the casualty had made to cause him to be hurt or killed. It seemed heartless, but the leader had a reason. He wanted his men to understand they had some control over their fates, and if they were very careful the odds were with them. It helped his men see being shot as part of a series of mistakes instead of a random event. I never met him, so I am extrapulating from how I would have coped.
     
  9. superbadbrutha

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    At least these Democrats Senators went to Vietnam, most of the Republican ones were getting deferments, but I know that doesn't matter.
     
  10. Penrod

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    That pertains to his father as that was the law when he was born . Obama was born after and is under section 5. All that was needed was a British father at that time

    His father was born in a British colony making him a British citizen. Obama was born to a British father making him also a British citizen under the new law
    Still open
     
  11. superbadbrutha

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    I noticed you didn't have anything to say when it was shown that Pres. Trump had 5 deferments.
     
  12. Penrod

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    It doesnt bother me. But he did not lie about his service. That does bother me
     
  13. Merwen

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    Thank goodness he did--otherwise they might have managed to kill him off in Vietnam, as they did so many others...and for what?
     
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    Yea being a coward and staying at home safe while others put their lives on the line to keep you free shouldn't bother you.
     
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    Thats what Blumenthal did and again claimed he served in Nam. He is not only a coward he is a liar
     
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    So we have a coward and a cowardly liar.
     
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    If you want to call his father a UK subject fine, Pres Obama is not, no matter how hard you try to stretch the truth. 6th time now!!!
     
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    British law says he is

    Still open
     
  19. Durandal

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    0bama would have been torn to pieces for such a move, of course, but Drumpf can do no wrong.
     
  20. mdrobster

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    No, US law, says he is a US citizen, a natural born citizen, period. 7th time.

    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/citizen.asp
    The Fourteenth Amendment states that “all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.” Since Hawaii is part of the United States, even if Barack Obama’s parents were both non-U.S. citizens who hadn’t even set foot in the country until just before he was born, he’d still qualify as a natural-born citizen.

    Let me highlight it again. even if Barack Obama’s parents were both non-U.S. citizens who hadn’t even set foot in the country until just before he was born, he’d still qualify as a natural-born citizen.
     
  21. Penrod

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    Only if you misinterpret the 14th. One more time congress can not make you an NBC in fact if thats what it takes you are not an NBC you a a citizen by statute. Nothing natural about it


    Do you realize how ridiculous that last statement is. Why even have an NBC clause ?
     
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    You have proof of that?
     
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    Awww. Someone's cranky. It's adorable. And if you read the op you would be able to answer your own question.
     
  24. edthecynic

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    Tramp has admitted many times that it was a "foot thing" that kept him out of the draft, though when asked he didn't know what foot it was and said "look it up."
    Yeah, feet of clay.
     
  25. Your Best Friend

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    Bill Clinton and Barry Obama both avoided the military like the plague. Magically we have a rebirth now of indignant military wrath due to Trump.
    The left is filled with such (*)(*)(*)(*)ing hypocrites!
     

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