Notre Dame students to stage walkout over commencement speaker Mike Pence

http://crooksandliars.com/heather/indiana-bill-would-force-women-endure-two

 

I can imagine the headline: Pence Cheating? They'll pop a photo up in in the style of the Inquirer, but it will be front page on the NYT. No different than headlines of "Impeached?"

 

I disagree with respecting everyone. Society today likes to misconstrue words and meanings, and they matter, alot. I dont know a single conservative that respected obama.

What you should have said and probably meant is they would have shown common courtesy to sit and listen but not agree. There is a massive difference.

 

Having some knowledge of this you don't want to give that to a woman who is farther along than she thinks. A vaginal ultrasound is no more invasive than a pelvic exam in a woman or a prostate exam in a man. In fact less so than the latter. Many GYNs use a vaginal ultrasound routinely with every exam. It affords a great look at the uterus, cervix and ovaries. I'm not necessarily in favor of it post unprotected exposure but it's not a 'invasive' exam anymore than a digital exam. And Pence didn't propose it. The Senate did. My suggestion is to allow the patient and doctor to make the decision. I'm not giving the pill to someone who has a 6 weeks+ sized uterus or has a fetus with a heartbeast. There's two sides to this story.

 

Sure, that's fine. But you don't have to necessarily respect the person while, at the same time, respecting the office.

I might add that, in my opinion, in general, showing courtesy and respect to others arises from having respect for oneself.

 

The Repubs didn't except one occasion be overtly disrespectful to Obama (Rep Wilson of SC). Conservatives didn't disrupt his speeches. They didn't appear to like his policies but the opposition was respectful for the great part. Obama didn't miss chances in speaking of conservatives as not real smart or nice people; clinging to their guns, religion and bigoted ways.

The Dems and media rhetoric is unprecedented in the volume and intensity in going after Trump.

 

You're misrepresenting his position. Look, I work in California, possibly the most liberal state in the US, and in public education, possibly the most liberal part of the government, and we have rules stating that in no way, shape, or form is a male teacher allowed to be alone in his classroom with a female student. If such might occur, keep the doors open at all times and stand in the hallway if at all possible. This has come from numerous HR memos which were no doubt generated by a number of lawsuits both real and frivolous. It's simply a matter of common sense nowadays.

Besides, what happened with you the last time you were alone in a room with Modred the Mystic?

 

I wouldn't walk out on Obama at my graduation. I wouldn't throw bottles at Bernie supporters. And I wouldn't mace the children of Hillary supporters.

I guess I don't have the same passion as leftists.

 

If a woman is far enough along for regulations banning abortion after a certain period to kick in (roughly 20-24 weeks). A regular ultrasound is just fine.

The only side to this story is anti abortion activists trying to use law (targeted legislation) to make it more difficult for a woman to have an abortion.

http://www.reuters.com/article/usa-abortion-indiana-idUSL1N0BQ05N20130226

https://thinkprogress.org/how-india...aw-to-shut-down-abortion-clinics-889a1578249e

 

Pence gave a great speech and he got a lot of enthusiastic ovations from a very appreciative audience.

 

Then you have no tolerance for liberals because they ran on a platform of lies and hypocrisy. They are the party of hypocrites and liars and are fine with it, as long as they are in power. Rigging elections, wiretapping Americans, weaponizing the IRS against political groups, collusion between the DOJ and Secretary of State to cover up her crimes and keep her out of jail.

The hypocrisy, even in your statements, is astounding and absurd to listen to.

 

The difference is you would be a respectful, considerate graduate despite the fact that you disagree or do not like the speaker. The left has not figured out yet how to behave like an adult and still disagree.

 

It's not safe to take that pill if you're farther along than a few days. That's the medical issue.

 

Why? This sorry excuse for a human being supports electroshock therapy, something that very well could have been used on some of them and their classmates. He doesn't deserve a shred of respect. Their professors have clearly done a good job teaching them to stand up for what they believe in.

Why do universities even invite these people anyway? They have to know it won't go over well.

 

What the heck are you talking about? Electroshock therapy in its present modified form is still used for resistant cases. While last resort it is highly efficacious. You have no idea what you are talking about. And what does Spence have to do with it. If it's still a gold standard for certain cases then of course it deserves to be part of possible psychiatric regimen. It certainly isn't first line therapy.

 

Yes it happens, but it hurts women, it keeps them out of positions of power and it doesn't make it right. Basically cutting an entire gender out of any business dealings after 7/8pm also lunch or breakfast... research below suggest some men won't even meet in their office unless a third is present. With 85% of top positions taken by men that makes it very difficult for a women trying to carve out a living.

You can call it anything you like, but it's sexist, no getting around it.

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/03/pences-gender-segregated-dinners/521286/

 

Well okey dokey then.

 

no not misrepresenting... perhaps over reacted slightly lol... but I still maintain this "behaviour" huts women and is sexist, it cuts women out of potential business deals especially in some places where much of it occurs after hours.

ps. below involves a minor, different situation.

 

I have never in my life considered electro shock therapy in political discussions. But now that you mention it, maybe there is a reason that the idea has you so kerfuffled. The level, breadth, and width, of insanity on the left is shocking.

 

When Pence began to speak, less than one percent of the audience walked out in protest. Similarly, the other twenty four thousand in attendance boo'ed the protesters as they left. Sweet.

 

So what some students are excersising their right of free speech but they have not abridged Pence's right to speak , have they?

If they stop Pence from speaking then comecand and shine to us about it.

 

It is their right! If it was Obamska speaking and students at Roger Ailes University walked out of turned their backs the Obama haters would would be cheering them on as Heroes of Trumplandia.

 

You're not making sense. No one is suggesting cutting women out of anything. If you have to meet with a woman then have three in the room is all anyone is saying. It's up to you to invite another if you're uncomfortable. No one is suggesting not allowing women to have the same rights of employment, advancement, etc. Maybe it is you who is being paranoid. It would be a silly business model to take 1/2 of your employees out of the equation when it came to advancement.

 

I agree with your statement, it is still rude to get up and walk out. Why? Are they afraid someone is going to say something different than their own philosophy? Be polite and sit thru it like most mature humans would. The real world is going to be a shock to these snowflakes. Get up and walk out on your boss's presentation and see what happens. Jeez!

 

No, I'm making perfect sense, you just don't want to turn the situation around and think about what it would mean if roles were reversed.

A man in a position of power won't eat or meet with a woman alone or after 6pm because it would make him uncomfortable.... fine it's his prerogative, but don't tell me it's not sexist.

it's double standards, one rule for men one rule for women.... it's sexist