Notre Dame students to stage walkout over commencement speaker Mike Pence

Just curious ! Lol.

 

Is that mentioned in your Progressive, "Rhetorical Radicals," manual?

It can't be an accomplishment because it doesn't advance the cause? (page 13)

Or perhaps, is it more accurate to say, "advance the deception of Socialism being masked as Progressivism ?" (page 24)

 

I think you just tried to get away from defending the proposition that being selected as a Vice President is by definition an accomplishment, with a bunch of partisan horse manure.

Try defending your assertion based on merit, rather than ideological dog whistle tricks you learned. Snark doesn't cut it as a replacement for thought.

 

damn, snowflakes melting all over the place tonight.

 

So he is not entitled ? Actually, it is the school that sets the expectations of how people should act. It is their private venue.
And it might even be looked upon as being a religious ceremony.

So, in reality, it will be the students who either choose to participate in ways that are appropriate to the occasion, or choose to show how vulgar and disrespectful young, "Socialists in training," can be.

 

Merit is in the eyes of the beholder. Discourse is grounded in the methodology that one chooses to follow. Hatred is learned, and Socialists tend to learn it well.

 

I meant before he became a politician.

 

It's just a step for a politician.

 

So they should be good little sheep and keep their mouths shut and do as they're told. Right?

Whose graduation is it? Yours? Pence's?

 

Let them walk out, nobody like social justice warriors anyway.

 

He is entitled to take the risk, just as political figures have for centuries and the school takes a risk when it invites a controversial political figure to a commencement ceremony that its decision will be met with controversy. It could only looked upon as a religious ceremony by fools who do not know the difference between a commencement or graduation, and a baptism. Ignoring yet another feeble attempt towards ideological distraction, we are left with how to define vulgar and disrespectful and who gets to decide. Some think it is vulgar to invite controversial or divisive figures to a commencement ceremony, and some think it disrespectful to those who are actually graduating to turn the event into a political rally for this administration.

I don't care about any of that. I care that those who want to stay and listen to this man , get to listen to this man. Walk-outs don't disrupt. Riots do.

 

In other words, you can't defend your assertion and when you are called to, you disappear into your ideological burka.

 

It is up to Notre Dame to choose to consider it to be a religious ceremony or not. They are a religious organization by their very mission and based on the fact that the school was founded as a Jesuit religious institution.

The definitions of vulgar and disrespect are not at issue. It is a religious school and there is no departure from that aspect of its existence.
As noted in their mission statement, "There is a special obligation and opportunity, specifically as a Catholic university, to pursue the religious dimensions of all human learning."

You choose to consider Mike Pence as a controversial figure, while at the same time there are many reasons why Notre Dame would eagerly embrace him as being one of their own.

 

You brought up the terms 'vulgar' and 'disrespect', not me, that puts their definition at issue.
Its up to the students to decide what is or is not religious to them. If you or the university can sell a graduation ceremony as the equivilant of a baptism to those students, feel free to try. It could not be less relevant to this discussion. You can walk out on a baptism too.

By anyone's definition, Pence is controversial, and any politician will be. So is Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and Donald Trump. That is not mutually exclusive with Notre Dame embracing him as one of their own. Clearly that is not a universal sentiment at that university or this would not be a problem.

Hey I must commend you. this is your first post without an ideological smear or reference. You learned it will not distract me.

 

I don't have to defend anything. Why? Because I choose not to be pulled in to YOUR semantically challenged ideology. Fiction and a false sense of reality are simply not my forte.
And honestly, do you really think that the administration of Notre Dame is going to cowtow to your lame cohorts?

I'm perfectly satisfied that Mike Pence is my Vice President.

 

You support the perpetual adolescence? Colleges have taken over babysitting from the parents now.

 

Seriously? You are claiming this as a mantle of justification?


You just convinced me that I shouldn't waste my time and stay up late with an Oregon Trotskyite.

 

LOL, I knew you'd take the bait and go back to that tired ideological dog whistle tactic. You are so easy to manipulate here.

These particular protesters are not trying to get him disinvited, or be disruptive so there is nothing to cow-tow to. They are showing their disapproval of what they claim he stands for in his policy stances with a walk out. Notre Dame is not obliged to do squat in response.

 

I support peaceful protest

 

That is pathetic.

I just went to my nephews graduation, I had no idea who the speaker was before arriving but I didn't agree with her entire speech. No way in hell would I disrespect the ceremony and boo her. Who does that? The only answer I know to that question is "flaming azzholes" so the question really is, should you be respectful, or be a flaming azzhole....

Obviously we know what side of the fence you stand on.

So embarrassing, people these days.

Shameful

 

Its peaceful protest of a public figure. In my opinion, a flaming azzhole is someone who can't respect a tradition that goes back before our founders enshrined it in the Constitution. As an American, people like you embarrass me. I can't think of anything more completely democratic than a good solid whistle, clap, or boo, when some politician is speaking. Its sad you have forgotten the pervading values behind our bill of rights. Jefferson, Madison and Monroe did not debate or write any amendments about listening politely to politicians.

 

I am pretty sure that Father Hesburgh would have probably been OK w/ this protest.

 

who would want to support Vaginal Probe Pence?

 

I'm glad my mother taught me respect then.

There's a time and a place for boo's. At your graduation, or at your childs graduation is not it, not even close.

Such a sad world we live in when social deviance is approved of.

These students are really in for some harsh real life lessons when they get out there, and it won't be pretty, Starbucks already has a full staff of baristas and are hiring refugees to fill the openings. I guess there might be openings in lawn service. I wish them luck.

 

That would be a change of pace for Marxist scum.