Simple questions for Trump supporters

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Sandy Shanks, Jul 10, 2017.

  1. PeppermintTwist

    PeppermintTwist Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    He's freaking out because the first thing an authoritarian government does is demonize the press and free speech and with the help of uneducated and gullible rubes and sycophants they very often succeed. But thankfully, we are not going to let this POS gangster who robbed fellow Americans throughout his entire life get away with that kind of Fascist bull-****...no way no how!
     
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    of course he has. But he is the president. Presidents get a certain degree of leeway in their actions.
     
  3. Lucifer

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    Do you realize how much of an authoritarian lackey you sound like?

    You may feel totally comfortable forgetting that he answers to the American People, but I will NOT.
     
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    He is a mentally unbalanced ***** who is a complete and total sleaze bag..he knows the gig is up, and its hilarious.
     
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    He is a living example of the old saying that the best defense is a good offense.

    Trump thinks the role of the press is to acknowledge his awesomeness. As Margaret Atwood has written, strongmen like Trump demand fawning tributes. Trump has been preoccupied with how many times he has been on the cover of Time magazine.

    Whatever Trump says to the contrary, he shows no understanding of the First Amendment. Like other authoritarian leaders, Trump does not appreciate the importance of a strong and independent press as a check on the powerful.

    Trump’s vilification of the media and reporters is pernicious and over the line.

    http://www.concordmonitor.com/Trump-assault-on-the-press-is-unAmerican-7819053

    Trump's vitriol against the press is "un-American"


    The White House briefing room was first built in 1902 when Teddy Roosevelt decided there needed to be a designated space for correspondents covering politics.
    Woodrow Wilson held the first full presidential press conference. JFK turned on the charm as television transformed the office. Nixon fidgeted and filibustered. Ronald Reagan walked down a red carpet. All of them battled the press but recognized the value of the exchange -- and the need to explain and communicate through professional journalists to the American public and the world.

    So, Mr. Trump, let journalists gather and ask you those snarky questions. Get in the ring and endure the testing and the confrontation, the sparring that defines our democracy. Show the world that the president of the United States is accessible, accountable and willing to explain, defend, convince and cajole in an open forum with people whose job it is to report his every move.

     
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    Maybe Trump could not do any of those things even if he did try and communicate with the press.

    How do you figure? Can you explain? I don't quite get it.

    You like to use sensational language. Not just in this thread, but in a lot of other threads, too.
     
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    You are just choosing one master for another. The big press does what the money tells them to do because if they don't they wont be the big press. The president is a product of the vote, not the pocketbook.
     
  8. Sandy Shanks

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    Oh, he is afraid, alright. "I think this is all part and parcel of his "war against the media.'"

    If that were true, if his administration is being totally honest, if there was no Russian involvement, if he is truly making progress on campaign promises, then he would challenge the media straight on. An honest man would have nothing to fear from the press.

    That is not the case. He refuses to hold press conferences with the White House press corps. The press conferences held by Sanders are not live. There is no video, sound only after the press conference is over and been reviewed for embrrassing moments. They are tightly controlled, short in duration, meaningless, and end abruptly.

    All this is from a President afraid of the media. It is obvious.
     
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    LOL............thinking like this ^ is why America beat the crap out of the British in the Revolutionary War. Marching Tin Soldiers in lockstep while the militia hid behind rocks and mowed them down. Trump doesn't have to kowtow to the media, which is enemy fire on a daily basis. He's taken the war to behind the rocks and trees and is kicking their asses directly through Twitter.
     
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    You could tell the media had declared war on Trump when they used very early photos of the Trump swearing in day vs at the moment of swearing in for OBama and made it such a huge issue that Trump felt compelled to comment. It was and still is open war on Trump.
     
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    Your insistence that this amounts to being "afraid" of the media (which begs the question); and your equal insistence that he was "involve[d]" with the Russians (a weasel word, that; what, exactly, does it specify, anyway?), just reveals your loathing for the man--and your desire, therefore, to grasp at any Democratic talking point (like a Chuck Schumer wannabe).
     
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    He was a product of the electoral college vote. As for the second half of your sentence, that is yet to be determined, but the signs are not promising.
     
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    Then it begs the question; if there is no Russian connection, why not confront the questions and open up his tax returns? It's quite simple really.

    “If the facts are against you, argue the law. If the law is against you, argue the facts. If the law and the facts are against you, pound the table and yell like hell”

    Carl Sandburg
     
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    Well, Trump has averaged 2.2 Press conferences a month, which is right in line with GW Bush (2.18 per month) and Obama (1.71 per month).

    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/newsconferences.php
     
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    Was Obama afraid of the press? So far, Trump is averaging more press conferences per month than Obama did.

    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/newsconferences.php
     
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    Good find!! So the left is like the gambler who is losing his shirt and keeps yelling, "shut up and deal". This is what happens when you are losing and losing badly.
     
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    1. Hes not afraid, he knows the main stream media will ignore anything good, and only report on the bad.

    2. He doesn't bother because the main stream media will ignore anything good, and only report the bad.

    3. He doesn't see the need to waste time and space, when the main stream media will ignore anything good and only report on the bad.

    4. Hes not afraid to speak directly to Americans, that's how he got elected, in spite of the main stream media ignoring anything good, and only reporting on the bad.

    5. Because its fast, easy, and doesn't get filtered by the main stream media, who ignore anything good, and only report on the bad.

    6. Sharks maybe? Poisonous snakes perhaps?
     
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    On both points, the Democrats are not really inquisitive, but are simply playing a cynical game of "gotcha." Nothing President Trump might do would satisfy them.

    And I would certainly prefer that he not allow himself to be placed on the defensive.
     
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    Sure sounds like a fat snowflake :) Wow, can't handle reporters......weak...frightened....:)
     
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    And yet, he IS on the defensive by not answering reporters questions.

    Tweeting is not a defensive strategy. It makes him look like the whiner he is.
     
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    Just as George W. Bush was, in the year 2000.

    But so what?

    It is only the electoral college's vote that really matters.

    Or are you familiar with any time, in all of American history, when presidents were elected by the popular vote?
     
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    How dare you question our glorious President Trump, who restores our nation's greatness. Go get a job, you progressive moocher.
     
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    You need help.
     
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    Less than a week after returning from Europe and the G20 summit, Trump is back in Europe again, this time in Paris to visit with France's new president, Emmanuel Macron, and to celebrate Bastille Day, July 14, France's equivalent to July Fourth.

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    Trump actually faced reporters for the first time since returning from the G20 meetings and after Donald, Jr.'s, adventures over the weekend. Trump defended his son, calling him a "wonderful young man."

    Concerning Junior's meeting with the Russian in June 2016, Trump said, “most people would have taken that meeting,” contradicting his incoming FBI director’s testimony and federal election laws involving benefits from a foreign power, particularly a rival foreign power. The President is supposed to uphold the laws of the land, not challenge them.

    Trump continued to downplay the issue, saying that “nothing happened” as a result of the meeting. As is his custom when it comes to important issues, he completely missed the point, probably on purpose. He has a tendency to think other people are stupid.

    In part, this is what Goldstone's email said, "The Crown prosecutor of Russia met with his father Aras this morning and in their meeting offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father.

    This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump."

    Junior, Trump's son-in-law, Jared Kushner, and Trump's campaign manager, Paul Manafort, eagerly met with the Russian representative for the expressed purpose of obtaining "information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia." It hardly matters if "nothing happened." Besides, we only have Junior's word that nothing happened, and he has been lying for a year, claiming he never met any Russians.

    Trump said the Russian national involved wasn’t a government lawyer. Again, he missed the point. The emails Donald, Jr., received pitched her as one. Junior thought he was meeting a Russian government lawyer, which explains why he brought along Kushner and the campaign manager.

    Next came the hallmark of Trump's speeches and statements. Once again, he assumes that others are stupid. He wants it both ways. A month and a half ago, Trump, amid consternation and anger from European leaders, including Macron, withdrew the U.S. from the Paris Accord, joining Syria and Nicaragua as the lone holdouts.

    So, what does he tell Macron? He said, “something could happen with respect to the Paris accord.” Trump says “we’ll see what happens.” In other words, yes, he pulled the U.S. out of the Paris Accord, but not really because "something could happen."

    He has pulled this stunt numerous times before, and nothing ever happens. Nothing will happen with the Paris Accord. An outsider can't renegotiate the accord. Only Trump would suggest such a thing.

    Conclusion: Trump is being Trump. BTW, Trump has an approval rating of 18% in France.
     
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    President Trump has done more press and media interviews, including with those openly adversarial, than any President in history.

    As for White House press conferences, those has just become a short list of media and press on the left playing gotja questions prefaced with attacking mini-speeches, and then making personal attacks against the press secretary. If the White House press corp is going to act like juvenile partisan punks, there is no reason to treat the as if legitimate press.

    The REAL question you are asking is why doesn't the President LIMIT is press activities to a short list of incredibly dishonest Democrat outlets and publications. That response is because he's not a fool.

    That you and others can not handle direct communications from the president without being filtered through 3rd party partisan outlets is your problem, not his.
     
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