Tokyo Olympics: Kiwi weightlifter Laurel Hubbard to become first transgender athlete to compete at t

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  1. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Hear hear:applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:

     
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    As every human is unique, each person has had to adapt to his uniqueness and strike a balance between accepting and acceptance. That is the universal human condition.
    There is nothing new for this specially identified, tiny group other than politicization for unclear purposes.
     
  3. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Why does this "tiny group" just exercising their Constitutional rights to be themselves SCARE so many heavily armed white males?

    Just asking for a friend! ;)
     
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    Yeah I should have guessed they wouldn't destroy it; they will just make it theater/fake/fantasy.
     
  5. FreshAir

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    even a republican supreme court won't say this is not discrimination

    "Supreme Court won’t revive school’s transgender bathroom ban"

    https://www.cbs7.com/2021/06/28/supreme-court-wont-revive-schools-transgender-bathroom-ban/

    this is the hard part in addressing these issues as they are equal rights issues, so how do we address them as a society, not an easy question

    our hospital addressed it by having uni-sex bathrooms, all bathrooms can be used by any gender and has been that way for years, works great
     
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  6. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    How is it not equal right for men to use the men's room and women use the women's room no matter what clothes they are wearing?
     
  7. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    that would be like saying how would it be an equal rights issue to have separate white and black restrooms
     
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  8. Bluesguy

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    How is it discriminatory to have men use the men's room and women use the women's room?
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    discriminating based on race or gender is an equal rights issue

    are we not discriminating based on gender in your example?

    even if some agree with that discrimination, it is still discriminating based on gender, it's the very definition of it
     
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  10. Bluesguy

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    Again how is it discriminatory for all men to use the men's room and all women to use the women's room? Everyone is treated the same and everyone has a bathroom to use.
     
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    The liberals continue to attack women's rights. From the need for Rape rooms at protests, to the destruction of the very definition of womanhood.
    Disgusting. Reminiscent of Jim Crow and the KKK. Democrats gotta Democrat.
     
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  12. Patricio Da Silva

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    It's not bigotry.

    It's your problem, not society's.

    You act as if you are entitled, and you are not.

    Most definitely not. Society owes you nothing.

    No one is trying to stop you, that is you making stuff up.

    No one is imposing anything on you. It's your universe, your problem, it's just you dealing with your issues, that's all.

    You keep projecting your issues on the rest of the world, as if the rest of the world owes you something.

    they don't.

    Sorry.

    And don't lecture me about LGBT, I am a B in that society.

    I place no demands on society to accept me as I am, nor should anyone else.

    If they do, it's wonderful, and I praise them, if they don't, I live with it.

    No one owes me anything.

    NO one owes you a damn thing.

    Quit making **** up.

    No one is trying to stop you.

    We wish you all the luck in the world, and you'll need it,
    but don't blame others for your plight,

    You need to stop that **** here and now.

    And climb down from your high horse, there is no greater stench
    than that of self-righteous indignation by those who have no business claiming it.
     
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  13. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks for that response. I wish you well and I’m glad you’re happy.

    I have a gay sister and two gay cousins, and those things were difficult for my Catholic family to accept, and it’s even harder now that many of them have become Jehovah’s Witnesses who are less tolerant than the Catholics. I don’t see my sister and cousins as gays (except for the one cousin who is insanely flamboyant) I see them as my sister and cousins.
     
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    No it isn't.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    again, that would be discriminating based on gender, same as separating based on race would be
     
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    Nope men to the men's room and women to the women's room. What cloths you are wearing has nothing to do with it.
     
  17. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    that would be segregation based on gender, no different from segregation based on race as far as the law is concerned

    the republican SC just refused to change the lower courts ruling on this... why?
     
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    There is nothing discriminating about that, women are at a physical disadvantage so there is a sport for women only.. just like how mens sports are divided up into classes as well, to try and keep things somewhat fair, thats why there is weight classes and age classes for kids and teens. I mean should i be allowed to play in my 7 year olds soccer league this fall? are they discriminating against me? because im in my late 40s? Are they being ageists? Should we force them to allow full grown adults to play with a bunch of kids in the name of equality and wokeness?

    you are being absurd..
     
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    Still BEATING that dead horse STRAWMAN of YOURS? :eek:

    Sad!

    :roflol:

    These are YOUR own "self righteous" DEMANDS of transpeople...

    That is YOUR **** and NOT something that I "made up".

    So I RECOMMEND that YOU take YOUR own advice and "Quit making **** up" so YOU won't have to EAT your OWN words along with a helping of CROW!

    Yet AGAIN I am going to RECOMMEND that YOU take YOUR own advice since your ENTIRE post was nothing but your own "stench ridden self-righteous indignation" after you had a TASTE of your own medicine.

    YOU do NOT get to DICTATE what transpeople like myself must do so that YOU get to REMAIN in your own "comfort zone".

    As members of an EVOLVING society we transpeople do NOT owe YOU anything!

    We are NOT obliged to "undergo transformative therapy to cosmetic completion" just to make YOU happy!

    That "high horse of indignation" of YOURS has DIED and that is the "STENCH" you are sitting on top of now.

    That is YOUR problem, NOT mine!

    Have a nice day!
     
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    I appreciate your acceptance of the LBGTQ members of your family and I have no doubt that they appreciate you for being open to them.

    Take care
    DT
     
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    If it wasn't your problem, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

    we are not having it with others, just you.

    Deal with it.
     
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    so do you think women deserve equal rigths, or is segregation ok

    that is the problem here, segregation is a slippery slope, as long as no one challenged it, could have kept the status quo

    but if the courts approved of it, then what else could be "segregated" based on race or gender?
     
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    Your unreasonable DEMANDS apply to ALL transpeople!

    Transpersons is PLURAL!

    Women is PLURAL!

    Men is PLURAL!

    So DENIALISM on your part does NOT alter the ACTUAL terms YOU used applying to ALL transpersons.

    Instead it ESTABLISHES beyond any doubt whatsoever that it is YOUR problem with transpeople.

    Sad!
     
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    Maybe its not his problem at all. Maybe this conflict stems from the wokie's bleeding edge of extremism and their demands that everyone else bow down to things which are contradictory to the natural order of humanity. Did you ever stop to think that maybe wokies don't have the right to dictate how the rest of us are allowed to think simply because they've created some microscopic special interest group and labeled it a victim? I mean where does this end? What more must we surrender to the perpetual outrages of social justice warriors?
     
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    your data suggests 1.8% among people born 1997-now not total numbers
    thats a huge difference since generation Z is only about 20% of your population
     

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