It's the communism, stupid! Biden's White House finally identifies Cuba's true problem

It's the communism, stupid! Biden's White House finally identifies Cuba's true problem (msn.com)

I'm sure this will come as a shock to those on the left-wing side of politics, but the truth has been spoken. Cuba's problem is Communism. It has failed yet again! So, what does that say about the progressing socialism creeping out from the shadows, infiltrating our government more and more?

 

They're going to argue that Socialism is good, but that Communism just took it too far.


All the Socialist countries they want America to be more like just happen to be majority White English-speaking or Western European countries.
Apparently they're not talking about countries like Cuba or Venezuela.

 

Who knows what "they" will argue, but Biden said this: "“Communism is a failed system – a universally failed system. And I don’t see socialism as a very useful substitute."

I have never met a left wing person who thinks communism is a good system, or socialism for that matter. Socialism = Government owned and operated means of production.

 

I think Biden might lose a lot of good will from many of his supporters over this.

That shouldn't matter too much because he was never very popular with this segment of the Democrat voters, and is not planning on running for a second term anyway.

Or more likely they will ignore this and pretend he never said those words.

 

Yea man, I'm sure they'll all rush to vote Republican because Biden said communism is bad. I'm sure that makes all kinds of sense to you.

 

I'm on another political forum and most of them there think that.

 

That's a load of codswallop. Do they offer no education in the US at all?

 

It's good to see someone with sense.

 

Let me introduce you to the friend of all the Democrats, Comrade Sanders.

 

Biden accidentally tells the truth.

Cuba, Iran, and the Shame of the extremists within the Democrat Party.

Just Terrible.

 

The true problem Cuba has is the USA embargos, not communism.

 

Even he does not promote government owned and operated means of production.

 

Of course you are.

 

Thank God, there are some people with sense and intelligence!

 

The sad and embarrassing truth is that most Americans simply have no clue what they are talking about with such terms as "Socialism" or "Communism". Both of which, if an outgrowth of the utopian nightmares of Karl Marx and his followers, are evil and destructive. Always leading to brutal authoritarian regimes. None of which is being promoted by any American politician or movement in any numbers needing to be worried about.

The "Socialism", same word but completely different and unrelated meaning, of the Nordic Model is what most American "Progressives" are talking about. That is a constitutional democracy, a republic where government provides only those services the voters demand and expect. Typically this means health care, mass transportation, education, mail services and utilities are expected to be provided by government and paid for with taxation. Involvement by government in industry is not tolerated, as other than essential services the economies are based upon free marketed capitalism.

Contrast that to Marxist Socialism.Communism with central planning and control that steadily creeps into all aspects of the economy. A system that absolutely must become cancerous if it is maintain control. Meaning the creation of secret police and brutal repression to tamp down upon counter-revolutionary thought.Remember this, none of what is in the Nordic Model of "Socialism" is in the Marxian philosophy of "Socialism".

They are different things entirely.

That is the problem in all this fear mongering and hatred-sowing politics in this country. People do not know what the terms mean but toss them about like weapons because their side says they should do so. It is Dogma, not reason, not knowledge.

Where anything Marxist makes no damned sense for any society anywhere, not ever, the Nordic Model offers a lot of benefits and a strong emphasis on personal freedom and self-determination. While nothing of Marx would be of benefit to the USA, the Nordic Model has many lessons worth studying and borrowing from.

One caveat though to all who propose a universal single payer, single provider health care system in the USA. No nation has succeeded in that with a population that is more than a small fraction of our own. Managing such a system is difficult. It grows in difficulty exponentially as the population increases. Already our two largest health care systems, the VA and MediCare, experience extensive exploits by criminals and inefficiencies of their bureaucracies. Were those systems expanded to encompass all of the US population they would soon collapse under their own weight.

For myself, I see the health care system of Germany as the most likely one to succeed in the USA. Mandated by national law but market based, non-profit for the most part. There is 100% coverage cradle to grave, all prices are known and health outcomes are superior to the USA. All that and the country is about one fourth our population, thus offering the potential of a scalable system.

 

The 50% of Democrats who have a positive view of Socialism, and a neutral view of Communism, are just going to remain quiet and not respond to this thread.

Meanwhile the other 30% of Democrats are going to deny there are any substantial numbers of them among the Democrat ranks, ignore and try to brush it off.

I've been around the block for a while and that's what always happens in these threads.

 

It is called Socialist-Democracy.

 

What works in Sweden is not going to work so easily in other countries.

How about we send advisors to Haiti and see if you can turn their economy around, with your enlightened wisdom.

 

Unfortunately the length of your post makes it unlikely that it will be read by any of the reactionaries who might benefit from it. The depth of analysis makes it unlikely they would understand it, if they managed to read it.

 

However, the 50% of Republicans who have a positive view of fascism, and a neutral view of Nazism, are likely to jump right in at any moment.

 

I would wager to guess there are far fewer Republicans who have a neutral view of Nazism than Democrats who have a neutral view of Soviet-style Communism.

As for "fascism", I think that is about equal on both sides. (although the Left would never ascribe that name to it)

 

I would wager the reverse is true.

 

Do you think there are more Old School Liberals left than Conservative Libertarians?

 

You are making a very big mistake thinking that Social-Democracy is A, B, C, and D.
...or that Communism is A, B, C, and D.
... or that Capitalism is A, B, C, and D.
Do you understand what I am saying? For example, Sweden's Socialist Democracy has brought Sweden to the highest peaks of civilization. But we now have ... wait for it ... Socialist-Democracy (by other leaders) and the country is sliding into hell. In other words, Socialist-Democracy is a word, a term, and it is used by a political party of the same name - but it sure ain't Socialist-Democracy today despite the party calling itself that.

 

What a joke - the three of you standing around feeding each other Commie propaganda tropes back and forth that have little to do with reality - and little clue about economics ..and near zero about socialism

"Never met a left wing who thinks socialism is a good system" ??????? What planet are you from ?!

Never heard of Sanctions ? no .. clearly not - Tiny nations under sanctions by the world economic empire for the last 50 years- perhaps has a little to do with it.