It's the communism, stupid! Biden's White House finally identifies Cuba's true problem

I believe Mark Levin is far more learn ed than yourself.

 

Levin is an ideologue and a tool. An educated person is one who has learned to think, not pigeon-hole what they perceive as "facts" into a set of beliefs.

 

In my opinion, you are overly stressing semantics. While I agree that semantics become very important when one is miscategorizing things, in order to make a specious argument (as in this thread), that is not the case with Sanders. I would be interested in your providing quotes of Sanders selling his ideas as straight-up, "socialism;" he is actually a Democratic Socialist, which, to his mind, is clearly something different than the classic, academic definition of a Socialist. When he does shorten the description of something to just, "socialist," he is doing so for the sake of brevity-- he is, after all, a politician, not a political science professor. Nor are the overwhelming majority of his listeners Poli-Sci students. You seem to be faulting Sanders for not taking it upon himself to prepare them for a future pop-quiz-- as if his challenge weren't great enough, as it is. What exactly, do you see as the harm; that Americans will approve a Socialist takeover of private business, thinking that they were only voting for single-payer healthcare?
Come on.

 

When one speaks of ethics, they mean a defined sense of what is right and what is wrong. If it is too defined, as is the case I find with many Germans, then it creates an intolerance towards those who deviate from it.

 

Dang, sounds like a leftist!

 

So you are the expert? Isn't that just like Biden is the expert on what is disinformation? So you and Joe are the arbitrators in dismissing thought that is opposed to your own? You know, there is a difference between education and indoctrination. That is why we have "Freedom of Speech".

 

That is both an insightful & good point, and a very different thing than saying that Germans/Northern Europeans are more honest than Mediterranean peoples, which is what Thingamabob said, in the quote, below yours:
"...But hey, the Mediterranean people are more Christian than anyone in the north. No, I am more inclined to believe that Scandinavians (for whatever reason) are more honest than the southern folk and for that reason, Socialist-Democracy works."

He had even directed this remark, originally, to you, so I assume you are familiar with it. If, for some reason, it was not clear to you, my remark about honesty, specifically, was meant to apply only to Thingamabob's post. I arranged the quotes that way, thinking that putting that part of my response adjacent to his comment would make this connection even more clear than the wording already suggested.

But the other part of my reply, which followed another one of your quotes, was meant to apply to ALL 3 of the quotes, in the post. That is why I arranged the three in conversational sequence, which is why one of your quotes preceded Thingamabob's, and one followed it.

 

I'm not ignoring or brushing anything off. Anyone who really believes that most democrats believe in either socialism or communism is being deceived by ****** lies told by ultra rightists who think piles of starved corpses being eaten by buzzards in all our major cities are a proper object lesson for the indolent

 

I think you're just in denial. Guess what? Not everyone thinks the way you personally do.

Truth is, you probably don't really know.

From your other posts, you remind me of one of those war-hawk vengeful Democrats. The type who want Julian Assange to suffer for "betrayal". Not a Liberal, and not a Leftist. Those cut from your cloth probably only make up no more than 30% of the Democrats.

 

How so? Levin is a tool. This is true. Although his show is good for a laugh.

 

Oh bullshit too, this goes back to the 50's and before. Anything that conservatives didn't like was "communist". These are the kind of people who think that old and sick people should just die quietly while the rest of us obediently work 12 hour days for a whole dollar so our betters can spend thousands to hunt endangered species in exotic locales as God intended.

Communism and Socialism are very well defined socioeconomic systems that never really existed in anything like their pure forms being, like capitalism, Unknown Ideals used mainly to justify and support despots.

Assange should be given a medal, but very little he said should be believed

 

"Learned" doesn't mean "smart" by a long shot. American "communists" are living proof of that.

 

A leftist would laugh....an American Patriot that has been around several decades sees the writing on the wall. Marxist theory has pervaded our education system. A hatred for our country is prevalent there. We see what is happening in Cuba and know where they want to take us. They may censor us through Social Media as they have done in Cuba, but they haven't taken away our guns yet. CRT is promoted in order to exacerbate resentment and divide. It is Marxist to the bone as is BLM.

 

I will retort "Indoctrinated " does not mean "educated". Many graduates of our Universities are indoctrinated but know squat about our Constitution or Founding.

 

That may be true in the past, but now they are becoming more and more right.

 

If you support the blockade of Cuba, everything you say about Cuba is meaningless.

 

When you look at the people involved they weren't far off then either. It's not right to punish people but recognizing who they are is a good idea.

 

What is communism?

 

Never heard of Assange lying about anything .. have you ? Believe him over any of our state sponsored propaganda media.

 

He was never given anything but truth to tell. He was a puppet of the people he thought he was "exposing"

 

All true, no doubt. But it is McCarthy who is responsible for the panic Americans feel at the mere sound of the word "Communism". The development of propaganda is irrelevant since McCarthy's boogeyman is perpetual. I do (yes) believe/understand that the American government/CIA/NSA shovel in the coal to keep the fire lit but it was McCarthy who rubbed the sticks together.

 

I haven't, no. What's more Julian has debunked (by default) any claim that this work put the good guys in danger .... and the US has failed to respond with a single example that it did. They've been throwing pasta against the wall all of these years but not a single noodle is there to see as evidence. It's just another example of American "everybody knows" but no one does.

 

Think about the mentality of government controlling everything to solve all our problems.

Where individual choice is seen as a luxury the society cannot really afford, and the concept of individual rights is not seen as an absolute.
Where no one really truly "owns" anything, and the society can come in and modify those property rights for the good of the collective.

 

Something in which you might possibly like to indulge.

 

He's a more moderate Democrat on economic issues. Maybe only leans halfway semi-socialist.
He makes the assumption that all the others in the Democrat party think pretty much the same as him.
On all the other issues he pretty much holds the same opinions as the typical person in New York City.