Florida man gets 8 months in prison in 1st felony sentence from Capitol riot

here people go to jail while awaiting court, up to a year, then prison if so sentenced, jail is more restrictive (unless death row) for the most part

 

"He pleaded guilty in June to a single felony count of obstructing an official proceeding, which carries a maximum sentence of 20 years in prison."

The charge is fair, but the sentence is pretty severe compared to recent precedent:

"One by one, the protesters, many wearing T-shirts that say "I am what's at stake," interrupt the proceedings by shouting slogans like "You're making a mockery of democracy!" or "Senators: Do your jobs and stop this hearing!" The police then warn that he or she will be arrested for any further disruptions. Minutes later, the person shouts again and is hustled out a side door.

Then another person repeats the process.

Eventually, the back two rows of the hearing room, which are reserved for the public, are empty, and another 20 or so visitors are escorted in from a line outside. They wait for their turn to shout and be arrested.

Overall, 70 people were arrested Tuesday and charged with disorderly conduct on the first day..." "...The second day of hearings on Wednesday was marked by the same sort of shout-and-arrest pattern."
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"The protesters are part of a nationwide campaign to disrupt the confirmation process...."
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" "My goal is for this nomination to not go through," said Alison Dreith, executive director of NARAL Pro-Choice Missouri, who was arrested Tuesday. "The stakes have never been higher." "
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"Dreith said she and the other arrestees were hustled down to the building's basement while wearing plastic zip-tie handcuffs and kept in a garage-like holding area. After about five hours, they were charged and released after waiving their right to a trial and paying a $35 fee."

Protesters continue to interrupt Kavanaugh hearings (yahoo.com)

So if 8 months in prison (after 6 months of being held without bail) is "pretty much a slap on the wrist", what would you call 5 hours in jail and a $35 fine for the same charge?

 

It was not treason.

 

Huhh....Such is the carrot on the stick....you may get a book...you may not....

It certainly, wont be the one you want....

Unless, it changed alot in the last couple decades.

 

Many hours later....I see no resident, masterminded lefty.....can care to remotely address this. I'm astounded by pretend surprise....

 

It could be worse..

Insurrection detainees are not completely isolated from the outside world. While in their cells, they have access to tablet computers they can use to trade messages with friends and family members.

 

Like it's probably been said 'ad infinitum' before - what about all the Federal Law enforcement that were firebombed, firecracker ed, maimed by 'Antifa'... Need I show the pics and vids ~ I'm sure that they have been shown above in previous posts.... Just wanting to express my sentiment on the "Political Prosecution" that is apparently being undergone. To her credit - even 'Pocahontas Liz Warren' expressed angst at what is going on to her obvious political antagonists... says something, huh.

 

I've seen antifa rioters get sentences of 4 to 5 years in prison and a $12 million fine. It all depends on the severity of the crime, whether they assaulted anyone, or whether they were the leader of an assault. Overall there were more than 160 officers injured from the capitol riots, which range from minor injuries, to broken bones and maiming (one officer lost an eye from the attack)

However, it doesn't appear that this particular individual was responsible for any physical injuries to anyone. 8 months might seem like a slap on the wrist to some, but if anyone should be given a hefty sentence for their involvement in the riot, it is the militia members and their leaders who organized the attack. We already have multiple members of the Oath Keepers, the Proud Boys the Three Percenters and other militia group members who have plead guilty and ratted out some of their fellow members for their involvement, however we have yet to see any of their sentences

 

we should always offer books, but yeah, I would guess their selection would be limited

 

did not realize they got tablets in their jail cells

 

Me neither.

I just Googled "Jan. 6th suspect solitary confinement".

The way some of the RW talks, you would think the conditions they are being held under makes the Gulag Archipalego look like the Beverly Hilton.

 

He didn't "self-deputize". He wasn't acting as a law enforcement officer. He was defending himself (hence self-defense) from a violent assault by a child molester, and then further violent assaults by an angry mob.

 

Are they kept in solitary confinement to coerce a confession?

"In their case-law, human rights bodies apply a definition which is similar to the one used in the Elements of Crimes for the International Criminal Court, stressing the severity of the physical or mental pain or suffering. They have found violations of the prohibition of inhuman treatment in cases of active maltreatment but also in cases of very poor conditions of detention,[25] as well as in cases of solitary confinement.[26]” (emphasis mine)
INTERNATIONAL COMMITTEE OF THE RED CROSS, Rule 90. Torture and Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment,
Rule 90. Torture, cruel or inhuman treatment and outrages upon personal dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading treatment, are prohibited., Volume II, Chapter 32, Section D.

 

What was not treason?

 

Jan6

 

With all due respect Sahba*, yes. it has be said "ad infinitum".
A very short internet search will reveal that there are a number of "Antifa" rioters that are being prosecuted for their crimes.
Something I agree with.
However this is not a thread about "Antifa".
I started this thread to discuss the first of the1/6 capitol rioters to be sentenced.
A man who pled guilty, apologized, showed remorse, and admitted that he was wrong.
Your thoughts on this topic will be greatly appreciated.
Having said that I kindly request that you stay on topic, and refrain from changing the subject.
All the best,

 

Absolutely ridiculous that anyone involved in the 1/6 protest would be charged with a felony, other than the cop that shot and killed Ashli Babbitt. He should be charged with murder 2 like Chauvin.

 

One cannot just give themselves law enforcement rights.

 

I know (setting aside, for a moment, the concept of a citizen's arrest). Kyle Rittenhouses didn't. He wasn't acting in the capacity of a law enforcement officer. He was acting as a private citizen who was forced to defend himself from a child molester and an angry mob.

 

His sentence was overkill. I could be wrong I don't think he engaged in any violent acts, and there's been a movement going around for a while that non violent offenders are punished using methods which don't include prison. I think many of us are looking for consistency along with reasons why some folks get sent to prison while others get a slap on the wrist, and that's if they're even charged at all.

 

No one forced him, he went there all on his own.

 

I have yet to see any evidence of treason on the part of the protestors.
OTOH, any individuals in the Capitol on Jan 6 who actively tried to incite an insurrection would be serious felons and an examination of their motives with respect to a possible charge of treason would be appropriate.
It is my understanding that many of the individuals involved in the incident have yet to be identified or arrested.

 

Politics, the DOJ has been given its marching orders to affirm the political status quo of Washington, which was the "threat of democracy". And that is the worst part of these proceedings. Politics should never enter a court of law.

 

It's not really a matter if they sound equal versus the overall ripple effect within our communities. We saw quite a bit of this over the past several months with "cancel culture". The key factor is how will this <action/non-action> be perceived? Right, wrong, legal, illegal, up, down, whatever. It only matters what the END result is once it's all hashed out.

For instance, if white people were killed at the rate (and for the same behavior) that leads to black and brown people being basically executed by cops, we would hear about it. The people would join together to fight back against the cops, institutionalized law enforcement, bogus "investigations" (rubber stamped), etc.

If heterosexual people were targeted for hate crimes at the level homosexual, asexual, and everything in between, there would be a major outcry as well.

If Christians were targeted the way atheists/agnositics are...and on and on.

I 100% agree with you that the Capitol riot and BLM protests are not equal on any playing field. I am just putting out there that we aren't talking about "equality". We are talking about majority rules and until law makers can find a way to address these discrepancies we are going to keep hearing these same arguments that <x group> is inferior so their civil rights, rights to free speech, happiness (all the things that they can take for granted) don't matter.

And, sadly, because so many have capitulated to Trump's whining, it's going to keep going the p

 

8 months is little harsh for trespassing and disorderly conduct.

Yes, it's more serious because this was the national capitol, and the man was taking part in a mob to disrupt a meeting of Congress, but even then considering those factors this is still a little harsh.

Those in this thread claiming "he got off with a slap on the wrist" are just being vengeful and deranged.