Florida man gets 8 months in prison in 1st felony sentence from Capitol riot

LOL You fell for it again! .....

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English please.

 

Trump supporter loses right to own gun or vote in Florida.....

 

Good God NO....being he is a Trump supporter it likely would have been LIFE PLUS 3 DAYS!!!

 

I thought the punishment for treason was death......

 

"Don't do the crime, if you can't do the time."

 

Is it possible that many who weren't participants in the violence but simply followed the huge crowd of protestors, were unaware of their trespass or the gravitas of the matter? This particular person harmed no one and damaged nothing. From his entering, standing around, and then then leaving, took about twenty five minutes. For all we know, he may have falsely intuited that under the circumstance a temporary suspension or variance to the rule was in order. During his legal proceedings he was instructed to acknowledge that Biden is the legitimate President. I find that extremely odd....or nearer to forced fealty to liberal doctrine than to the workings of American Democracy. How many Democrats who spent four years attempting to bum rush Trump from office were obliged to acknowledge Trump as their legitimate President or face retribution? It is different yes, but more similar than not.

 

How could anyone assume that the law was temporarily suspended? I doubt the courts have ever heard an argument as rich at that.

 

Well, the Trump insurrectionists believed that Pence could stop counting the votes.

 

Yes that was a federal courthouse.

 

Traveling to another state to self deputize is the farthest thing from self defense.

 

I'm just pointing out that "only 8 months" isn't the punishment. No need to get your tits in a wringer over what you presume my opinion of their guilty or innocence is.

You people are so polarized now. I thought it was bad a year ago but ffs.

 

That's not how a self defense claim is assessed.
Please refrain from speaking on jurisprudence if you don't understand how it works.

 

If he was held in solitary confinement then his guilty plea was coerced.

I find it odd that the details of the conditions these prisoners is unknown.

 

Would declaring a Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone have amounted to an "INSURRECTION"?

 

Vast majority have been waiting trial at home, and in the case of this guy, and most others, there is no doubt about guilt when they are on tape committing their crimes.

 

1/6 people breached the legislative chambers. Thats hardly a "protest", and absolutely has meaning. All due respect, and i appreciate the civil debate, but it disingenuous to the debate to make that claim. Like I said, claiming that because it didn't succeed, that that that then changes the intent is disingenuous. Had they actually found a legislator they would have harmed that person, if not killed them.

BLM is a valid cause, it's a bad implementation. ANTIFA on the other hand are just a bunch of whiney little brats who mommy and daddy never told them "no", called them "buddy", and allowed them to talk back to their parents. They are abhorrent little turds <Mod Edit> And ALL OF THEM, no matter who, if they commit an illegal act, they should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.

All I am pointing out is that the motives were completely different. ANTIFA looting a target is just dumb. It causes property damage, and really changes nothing. It's beyond misguided, <Mod Edit>. BLM is a valid cause. Both of them have bad, misguided missions that actually hurt their cause. But 1/6 had a mission, and that mission was to overturn a free and fair election. Not all of the protestors in 1/6 were there to break in, but they WERE all there to fight against the free and fair election that had just taken place.

 

Every article I read said they were charged with Crimes that carry 45-50 yr Sentences.

 

So 8 months for republican rioters and 0 months for liberal rioters. Well at least we’ve established a metric for figuring out how to sentence people in the age of riots for thee but not for me

 

I appreciate your honesty regarding Antifa and blm being a bad implementation. And you just could be right about the 1/6 idiots possibly harming a politician, but that didn't happen so it's just an assumption. The 1/6 people should have done exactly what Trump requested and peacefully protested. I can think of a lot of comparisons to other violent riots and make all kinds of excuses for them, but in the end they should have behaved civilly and just make their point.

 

yeah... about what Donald suggested. His best buddy said to have a trial by combat, and Donald added to go fight like hell or else lose your country.
Those were the closing words before the mob marched to the capitol and did exactly that.

It can't not be unseen.


And no politicians got hurt, because they ran for their lives... while cops slowed down the mob. Cops who were violently beaten.
It was an attack on democracy, and with that it is a very different riot compared to the other ones.

 

I saw the same thing when they first got arrested, then the NY Post did a story about how they were working out a deal where they would get no prison time or suspended sentences. Let me see if I can find something on it.

Here you go. I'm sure it's par for the course to offer or ask for plea deals, and you were right about the 45 years in prison if convicted. Even though the article doesn't mention how much time, if any, the lawyers will get, they are almost certainly not going to get 45 years, which even I think is a bit harsh.


Brooklyn attorneys weigh plea deal in NYPD firebombing case

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory...eigh-plea-deal-nypd-firebombing-case-76811952

 

There must be a great deal of doubt or they would have been charged long ago.

How many of the prisoners were subjected to solitary confinement, and for how long?

Does anyone know?

 

I heard they sing the National Anthem once a day.

 

Has that been reported anywhere.

Our corrupt bipartisan ruling political class is creating an American Gulag for the persecution and silencing of political opposition.

"As long as I am nothing but a ghost of the civil dead, I can do nothing." IN THE BELLY OF THE BEAST, Jack Henry Abbott, a real criminal describes how the system works.

 

Please elaborate