Why the Second Amendment needs to be amended or abolished

Just a simple ban? A law passed by Congress and by some miracle upheld by SCOTUS? Magically once the President signs the bill all spree shootings stop?

Who, other than China, North Korea, Venezuela and now Afghanistan, have banned civilian ownership of firearms?

 

How much fun could some piece of crap psychopath have in some remote desert location, engaging airliners with an FIM-92?

 

Nazi Germany, Cambodia.

 

I guess we're adding philosophicalstan to that list.

 

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You asked who banned civilian ownership of firearms not on your list, I told a couple.
There's more, plenty more..Cuba, for instance.

 

In a different thread someone had shown where Cuba hadn't banned all civilian ownership. The point is made, in any case. I doubt member philosophical will understand the point, however.

 

What's wrong? You got nothing in response to my CHALLENGE?

 

I was asked my opinion.
Digging me out is a way for others to avoid suggesting a solution to spree killings, and to avoid any discussion about mental healthcare for all Americans who might be crazy enough to do spree killings,
I have invited comparisons with other countries by many posters here are avoiding engagement with that.

 

Which is very useful when one needs to defend oneself or family from the criminal element that is around all of us, as such guns are jut as useful, if not more useful than cars. .

 

Many times the correct answer to that question is no.

Which are gun free zones, so much for that liberal thought of self protection. .

 

Then how about enforcing the already 20,000 + existing gun laws before asking for even more.

 

Once the Second falls, the rest topple like dominoes and freedom in the US is forever lost. .

 

Why?

 

Still no suggestions as to how to stop spree killings with guns.
Americans look as if they can stomach it as a price worth paying to own a weapon that will be useful if they’re attacked by a charging Rhino or something.

 

You have never studied how communist nations suffered, I take it.

 

Vietnam suffered hugely as a communist state because of the slaughter by Americans for being (nominally) so.
After the poorest country in the world defeated the richest country in the world in the war on their homeland, Vietnam is getting it’s act together and doing OK.

 

That has already been answered, prosecute criminals who use guns and gun crimes will plummet, that has already been tried in Operation Exile and was proven to be very effective at greatly lowering the use of guns by criminals.

https://ojjdp.ojp.gov/sites/g/files/xyckuh176/files/pubs/gun_violence/profile38.html

Only to someone who doesn't understand what is happening in America.

 

My understanding of spree killings are they are often unplanned and opportunistic by people who have not come into contact with the forces of law and order.
Lock up everybody?

 

The system doesn't extend to people who refuse treatment, and in most case's they are the very ones causing the problems.

There really isn't any system left in place to lock up those who are mentally ill to the point they are a danger to society, it was eliminated decades ago by bleeding hearts who believed locking up people who are a danger to themselves and others is distasteful.

In many case's that is the best thing to do for everyone including the person who is mentally ill.

Something wrong with that?

Total bull-crap, but not uprising.

 

But they still commit murders, FACT!

 

First they have to be diagnosed, that means they have to go in voluntary or be committed for doing something wrong, sometimes killing a innocent person in the process.

At least once locked up they can get the treatment they need to be somewhat stable, treatment they often refuse to have when left on the streets, where they often harm themselves and others.

As such locking them up is an act of compassion, versus letting their disease take them over and cause them to be a danger to all.

 

And then there is the other problem, some mentally ill people do seek treatment and are turned away over and over again, eventually they cannot take it anymore and they lash out many times killing a lot of innocents in the process.

The major problem is bleeding hearts who cannot stomach or understand, there are people amongst us who need to be incarcerated, sometimes for life, doing so is better for them and for the rest of society.

 

Go in where voluntarily?
A place for treatment that is free of charge where the client/patient can come and go?

 

Your first paragraph seems to express the problem.
And the availability of guns often makes that lashing out more deadly.
Indeed ‘lashing out’ suggests no criminal style premeditation.