‘The damage is done’: Russians face economic point of no return

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    so glad the Orange Cheeto is gone
     
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    I'm sure you had access to them to inspect them. :)
     
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    Your post #157 you stated empty silos. Then you made another ridiculous notion they place nukes near military installations. :)

    I don't need your input on that, I already know, I just want to ask again if you would enjoy those cities or just liberals being killed by nukes as you did in your previous posts.
     
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    What do you mean that rouble has lost 30% its value? Yes, it is dropped 30% with respect to dollar, but noone pays the goods in Russia in dollars. The prices for gas, electricity, food etc remained as before, therefore from this point of view the value of rouble has not changed.
     
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    What about first punish Clinton and Bush for war crimes? They are waiting since 1999, when bombed Belgrade with civilians. Serbians hate americans for what they did to Serbia, that is why now they avoid sanctions against Russia.
     
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    ok....
     
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    This was the context of "empty silos":

    If you don't understand the meaning of the highlighted words immediately surrounding the phrase "empty silos", I suggest you reach out to a literate, English-speaking friend or family member and ask them to explain it to you, because I've tried several different ways and you have not yet managed to grasp it. If you're just being deliberately obtuse, which I increasingly suspect, I'd encourage you to stop because you're playing-dumb act looks really cringey and is exceedingly embarrassing, for you, whether you recognize it or not.

    You didn't provide any sort of a reference for this, so I don't know what you're talking about, but if you'd stop and think for a moment, it might become clear to you that nuclear missile silos are not just near military installations, but they are, themselves, military installations in their own right.

    This is yet another false assertion. I started by stating my preference that we avoid nuclear war entirely. So no, I wouldn't "enjoy" it, it's just the reality of the situation: if nuclear war breaks out, the American victims are more likely to be overwhelmingly liberal than conservative. That's just a fact. I stated it clearly with the hope that the Dems, who seems far too eager to provoke Putin these days, may stop and reconsider some of their ill-advised actions, because the gun Putin is figuratively holding is pointed much more at their collective heads than mine.
     
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    Ok you called it a silver lining about the cities getting nuked.

    Don't care about the rest of your post because it seems you are making excuses for your invalid statements.
     
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    Bush? Serbia? Didn't all (or at least almost all) of the bombing of Belgrade happen under Clinton's watch? Did a President Bush ever bomb Belgrade?
     
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    Well, he did bite on those hands that feed him.
     
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    I wish that would happen, but the only ones who should and maybe could end Putin are the Russian people themselves.
    Look at the difference between Afghanistan and Ukraine. The Afghan army layed down and gave up the minute we left, even before. The Ukraines are standing up to one of the world's deadliest armies, many with no weapons but using their own bodies as shields/tank stoppers.
    The only meaningful change must come from within.
     
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    Clinton-Belgrade, Bush-Bagdad, Putin is the next in the line.
     
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    I'm not the least bit surprised you're now feigning indifference after so thoroughly embarrassing yourself by misunderstanding the clear meaning of my post. If I were you, I probably would have just shut up and left people wondering, but since you opened your mouth and removed all doubt, I suppose "Don't care" is as good of a fallback position as any at this point.
     
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    Ok, thanks for your clarification. Everything else about that original post referenced Serbia, except for the "and Bush" and "they", so I was confused. FWIW, while Serbians may well hate America (don't really know much about their public opinion to confirm or reject your assertion on that), Iraqis have more mixed opinions about the USA. The Kurds generally love us (in spite of all the shabby treatment they've received from us over the years), while the Shiite and Sunni have more divided attitudes towards America.

    As a side note, if you think both Clinton and Bush are war criminals for the bombing campaigns they oversaw, how do you feel about Obama, Trump, and Biden for the various bombing campaigns they've overseen as well? War criminals too, the lot of 'em?
     
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    He's just a troll I would stop engaging
     
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    Fine, but I prefer not to wish harm on people based on political ideology.
     
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    Interesting about Iraq. I did not know that. For Obama and the rest I can not comment as not sure what kind of crimes are on them. Obama have in fact got a Nobel Prize for peace. So I assume he did not do anything bad on international arena.
     
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    Obama was awarded the peace prize in 2009, at the very beginning of his administration. He hadn't really done anything at that point, good or bad. As for things that he did end up doing ...

    'Peace' President? How Obama came to bomb seven countries in six years | The Independent | The Independent

    If bombing places is the thing that gets you upset, Obama oversaw more bombings than just about anybody in history.

    America dropped 26,171 bombs in 2016. What a bloody end to Obama's reign | Medea Benjamin | The Guardian
     
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    Did he? Biden has increased oil imports from Russsia since the invasion began.

    The same people dumping Russian vodka down the sink are buying Russian gas.
     
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    Nord stream 2 supposedly would funnel big bucks from the EU into Russia.
     
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    I completely agree. Biden said our intelligence knew months ago Russia was going to invade Ukraine. Why didn't we start pouring anti tank and aircraft missile back then.Why did we wait to just before it happens and they don't have the weapons to fight? He's much like he was getting our people out of Afghanistan. To little, to late. ( www.firstpost.com › world › american-intelligenceAmerican intelligence vindicated by Russia's invasion plans
    Feb 25, 2022 · American intelligence vindicated by Russia's invasion plans. Russia's invasion so far has played out largely as the Joe Biden administration said it would back in December, with nearly
     
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    Yes which is why it was STUPID for Brandon to grant it to Russia. The Biden excuse was we can't use it as leverage because it's not fully operational. That's idiocy.


    Oh and he's also distinctly said he will NOT sanction oil exports from Russia, including the US.

    What's Putin gonna do? He's gonna expand and upgrade his military.

    There are no white hats here. Not the Ukrainian PM, not the autocrat Putin, and certainly not the corrupt potato Joe.
     
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    He was better than Brandon by far.

    regardless it’s genuinely concerning the sheer danger Brandon is putting us all in.
     
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    Brandon was better than John Barron for sure
     
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    The German government is discussing to postpone the nuclear power plant shutdown until the crisis is over. The "old" German nuclear plants are still well maintained and can easily run for additional decades.
     

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