The actual letter that Texas Gov. Abbott hand-delivered to Joe Biden

Average monthly crossings under Trump were similar to what they were the 4 years before Trump.

 

You need to take another look at Post #98 by @Bluesguy ... and, BTW, how many illegals were sent back out of our country while Trump was president compared with the numbers of illegals who were deported under Obama, or now, under Biden...?! How many illegals simply failed to appear for their "asylum" hearings and disappeared into nowhere under Trump? How many illegals were deliberately allowed to remain by Obama and Biden, and dispersed to migrant 'welcoming centers' all over the United States, usually in the 'dead of night' (the preferred method of cockroaches)?

 

Oh I guarantee you that Obama deported more people than Trump. Obama deported more people than any president in history I am quite certain. You are free to look up the numbers, they are easy to find.

Yea, i looked at his graph. It supports my argument.

 

Meh:


On the other side of the ledger, the number of people deported at or near the border has gone up — primarily as a result of changing who gets counted in the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency’s deportation statistics.

The vast majority of those border crossers would not have been treated as formal deportations under most previous administrations. If all removals were tallied, the total sent back to Mexico each year would have been far higher under those previous administrations than it is now.

The shift in who gets tallied helped the administration look tough in its early years but now may be backfiring politically. Immigration advocates plan protests across the country this week around what they say will be the 2 millionth deportation under Obama — a mark expected to be hit in the next few days. And Democratic strategists fret about a decline in Latino voter turnout for this fall’s election.

Until recent years, most people caught illegally crossing the southern border were simply bused back into Mexico in what officials called “voluntary returns,” but which critics derisively termed “catch and release.” Those removals, which during the 1990s reached more 1 million a year, were not counted in Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s deportation statistics.

https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-obama-deportations-20140402-story.html

 

In the 1990s the "voluntary returns" were Mexican citizens.

Once the population of people crossing the border became almost all people from Central America, that was no longer an option. You can't deport a Guatemalan to Mexico. The policy didn't change, the way we count people didn't change, the population of people changed, which changed the type of legal options the government had.

 

If you have some numbers that refute those I posted then post them.

 

If Biden had stuck with the Trump policies the wall would be completed, the southern neighbors working in their respective countries and the flow would have been minimized.

 

Reality check.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46748492

 

Well first thing I think we should do is offer safe haven in major cities for those who are here illegally. We could insure that no communication between local law inforcment and immigration officals takes place and practice capture and release.

What do you think?

 

I don't think you understand how anything works.

 

All of it that is standing today was built under Trump.

 

I think you can't face up to the reality that democratic policies directly contribute to the rise in border crossings as well as their ability to escape authorities while they are here.

Because democratic policies assume everyone is a ****ing "dreamer"

 

Yea, but I don't care what you think. You don't know what you are talking about, and I do.

 

That is the most immature response I've ever read.

https://www.newsweek.com/us-southern-border-more-secure-joe-biden-donald-trump-1743839



"But data suggests that the number of undocumented migrants continues to rise and reports hint that top officials at the Department of Homeland Security are growing frustrated with the White House's response."

Wanna discuss sanctuary cities now?
**** like this?
https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/catch-and-release-putting-dangerous-criminals-on-the-streets/
"April 18, 2019: Cespedes was arrested by the New York Police Department (NYPD) for the charges of criminal possession of marijuana 3rd: aggravate weight more than 8 ounces, criminal possession of marijuana 4th, criminal possession of marijuana 4th: aggregate weight more than 2 ounces, criminal possession of marijuana 5th, and unlawful possession of marijuana. The next day, ERO deportation officers lodged a detainer with the NYPD. The detainer was not honored and Cespedes was released."

Own it.

 

Ah, a denier of facts. You must be a Trump supporter. No need to continue this conversation.
Bye !

 

Damn straight I'm a Trump supporter, go hide then.

 

Reality check.

Sometimes it's more economical if you can repair existing walls rather than replacing them.

 

Nancy can't go she would turn people into stone

 

He probably had someone else read it and then tell him it was nothing.

 

I hope he didn't waste some aid's time by having them read the letter.

 

@Bluesguy , don't misunderstand me. I'm SUPPORTING your information, not dissing it like @WhoDatPhan78 is. He's the who claims it's wrong -- not me!

 

An open arms accommodation policy has not slowed the flood.
Biden's trip was carefully controlled, not to protect Biden from the truth but to maintain deniability. If Biden actually toured the border the MSM would be with him and left wingers who hide behind the official story would see events that challenged their faith.

 

What is an open arms accommodation policy?

How much do you think has changed since Biden took over policy wise?

 

I'm not claiming it's wrong. it's correct.

It supports my point, not his.

That chart supports my claim that the average monthly crossings during Trump's 4 years was not significantly less than the 4 years before Trump took office. The average might even be slightly higher.