The actual letter that Texas Gov. Abbott hand-delivered to Joe Biden

How about we don't let them in in the first place? Let Mexico deal with them. But it appears that Mexican authorities are providing an escort service to our border right through their country. Hmm. . . do you think Mexico knows our borders are open and the Biden administration has put out the welcome mats?

 

Agree wholeheartedly! We should go back to Trump's proposal to stop the enormous flow of migrants from crossing our borders. I think Mexico is mostly being run by the cartels so not sure they would get on board with this. The plan is to traffic illegal narcotics into our country and import their little worker bees while they're at it. A lot of migrants will spend years paying off their travel fees to the Cartels. They're working for them whether they want to or not. They refuse to work for them, the Cartels kill their families in their country of origin.

Source:
US and Mexican officials plan to deploy thousands of Mexican troops (nypost.com)

 

It is no more complicated that going to a port of entry and claiming asylum there instead of wading across a river. The same things will happen but the claimant will be legal.

 

Yea, not letting them in would be great, any idea how to do that? No one has been able to figure that out in the past 50 years, do you have a magic solution?

We could dig a moat and fill it with lava, then set up a 100 yard wide mine field after that.

 

Our immigration law is insufficient to deal with our immigration issue...

The situation is not sustainable. We need comprehensive immigration reform. Congress needs to quit bitching and do it's job.

 

Well, I guess border agents on horseback pushing illegal immigrants back into the water is out of the question. They will be prosecuted for doing their jobs (and when vindicated just not apologized to). We could try filling the moats with crocodiles or payana fish. Or we could just use the steel we already paid for rusting on the border to finish building the walls (I know there's a way around them). It would slow some of the caravans down, while border agents once alerted to the attempt to scale walls can set up a means of pushing them back off the walls. An invasion sometimes requires more stringent measures to thwart. Anything is better than doing nothing. We know doing nothing just encourages more illegal immigrants to commit crimes.

 

Yea, pushing them back after they cross the border isn't legal unless they are from Mexico.

It could be legal if the law was changed, but that would require congress to actually do something.

 

I suppose it all depends on the exact border line. However, do you wait until after a burglar crosses the threshold of your home before you try to expel him?

 

Your question is irrelevant. It would be against the law for them to do it.

We need the law to be updated to meet our current problem. Back when it was Mexicans crossing the border, our law was able to manage the situation. it is not set up to deal with thousands of non Mexicans crossing the border.

 

Objectively, Republicans have no balls. They didn't do the right thing, two times, when they let off the Orange Stain. Then, objectively, they failed to condemn the Insurrection and there were even some Republicans who spoke encouraging words before fleeing in terror. Objectively, Republicans have no interest in saving Democracy or upholding the Constitution. They crawl on their bellies in the swamp to lap up political power and now they are stuck with 20 or so radical righties.

Objectively.

 

It's against the law to cross the border anywhere but ports of entry. That makes my question relevant.

Until the immigration policy is changed it doesn't give Biden an excuse for not securing our border in ways that help. It's time to stop acting like a petulant child and consider reinstating some of Trump's policies that actually were working. Destroying our country just because you hate Trump is short sighted.

 

Which of Trump's policies has Biden cancelled that should be reinstated?

 

It is no more complicated that going to a port of entry and claiming asylum there instead of wading across a river. The same things will happen but the claimant will be legal.

The problem is in the white house, not the congress.

 

The problem is the law.

 

The law says entering the U.S. except at a port of entry is against the law. You want to repeal that? I want to enforce it and turn illegals away at the border. The white house doesn't want to enforce it. The problem is the white house.

 

How is it you know everything bad he's done but nothing good?

 

The law doesn't allow us to send a person from Guatemala back to Mexico after they've crossed the border.

When Mexicans were the people crossing the border illegally, there were tools to send them back fast. About 20 years ago, the population of people crossing the border illegally stopped being mostly Mexican. Not it is almost exclusively non-Mexican.

There is no mechanism in the law to quickly send people back to their home country thousands of miles away.

I'm identifying the problem, and who can change it. The law, and Congress.

I'm not really sure how to best address that problem, but that is the problem that needs to be addressed.

We can keep arguing about who's fault it is, but that's not going to solve anything, but it's more fun i guess.

 

The law needs to be designed for both. That is the whole point of law. To create a society in which things we find distasteful to be banned or reduced to the best extent we can possibly obtain.

 

Well, right now it does neither. So let's at least agree that we need an update to the law. We can't really start arguing about what the law should look like until we at least agree on that.

 

I've previously stated in other threads that our immigration system needs to be streamlined. But before that can be done, existing law needs to actually be enforced. The law is not actually broken. The problem lies in the fact that Dems do not wish to enforce it. They want illegals to come here because they consider them a future voting base. Which is why they often call for some sort of "pathway to citizenship" for people who have broken the law.

 

I didn't fall the numbers of those crossing fell dramatically as as been shown in the graphs.

 

You say the current law is not being enforced, but you don't have any idea what the current law allows.

Anyone who is suggesting that we can send a non Mexican back to Mexico after they cross the border is either lying, or doesn't understand the law.

 

Mind showing where I said that?

 

Changing laws is trivial for government. Changing minds is not.