Lila Rose Shares Why Abortion Supporters Want a Culture of Consequence-Free Sex

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  1. FoxHastings

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    FoxHastings said:
    Here is what women deal with, how they are harmed to some extent in every pregnamncy.....and every pregnancy has the risk of death


    And if you truly have respect for women don't do what ignorant Anti-Choicers have done and pick "stretch marks" out of that list like they are the only harm..


    Normal, frequent or expectable temporary side effects of pregnancy


      • exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks)
      • altered appetite and senses of taste and smell
      • nausea and vomiting (50% of women, first trimester)
      • heartburn and indigestion
      • constipation
      • weight gain
      • dizziness and light-headedness
      • bloating, swelling, fluid retention
      • hemmorhoids
      • abdominal cramps
      • yeast infections
      • congested, bloody nose
      • acne and mild skin disorders
      • skin discoloration (chloasma, face and abdomen)
      • mild to severe backache and strain
      • increased headaches
      • difficulty sleeping, and discomfort while sleeping
      • increased urination and incontinence
      • bleeding gums
      • pica
      • breast pain and discharge
      • swelling of joints, leg cramps, joint paininfection including from serious and potentially fatal disease
        (pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with non-pregnant women, and are more susceptible to fungal and certain other diseases)
      • extreme pain on delivery
      • hormonal mood changes, including normal post-partum depression
      • continued post-partum exhaustion and recovery period (exacerbated if a c-section -- major surgery -- is required, sometimes taking up to a full year to fully recover)
    Normal, expectable, or frequent PERMANENT side effects of pregnancy:




      • stretch marks (worse in younger women)
      • loose skin
      • permanent weight gain or redistribution
      • abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness
      • pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as many as 35% of middle-aged former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former child-bearers, associated with urinary and rectal incontinence, discomfort and reduced quality of life -- aka prolapsed utuerus, the malady sometimes badly fixed by the transvaginal mesh)
      • changes to breasts
      • increased foot size
      • varicose veins
      • scarring from episiotomy or c-section
      • other permanent aesthetic changes to the body (all of these are downplayed by women, because the culture values youth and beauty)
      • increased proclivity for hemmorhoids
      • loss of dental and bone calcium (cavities and osteoporosis)
      • higher lifetime risk of developing Altzheimer's
      • newer research indicates microchimeric cells, other bi-directional exchanges of DNA, chromosomes, and other bodily material between fetus and mother (including with "unrelated" gestational surrogates)
    Occasional complications and side effects:




      • complications of episiotomy
      • hyperemesis gravidarum
      • temporary and permanent injury to back
      • severe scarring requiring later surgery
        (especially after additional pregnancies)
      • dropped (prolapsed) uterus (especially after additional pregnancies, and other pelvic floor weaknesses -- 11% of women, including cystocele, rectocele, and enterocele)
      • pre-eclampsia (edema and hypertension, the most common complication of pregnancy, associated with eclampsia, and affecting 7 - 10% of pregnancies)
      • eclampsia (convulsions, coma during pregnancy or labor, high risk of death)
      • gestational diabetes
      • placenta previa
      • anemia (which can be life-threatening)
      • thrombocytopenic purpura
      • severe cramping
      • embolism (blood clots)
      • medical disability requiring full bed rest (frequently ordered during part of many pregnancies varying from days to months for health of either mother or baby)
      • diastasis recti, also torn abdominal muscles
      • mitral valve stenosis (most common cardiac complication)
      • serious infection and disease (e.g. increased risk of tuberculosis)
      • hormonal imbalance
      • ectopic pregnancy (risk of death)
      • broken bones (ribcage, "tail bone")
      • hemorrhage and
      • numerous other complications of delivery
      • refractory gastroesophageal reflux disease
      • aggravation of pre-pregnancy diseases and conditions (e.g. epilepsy is present in .5% of pregnant women, and the pregnancy alters drug metabolism and treatment prospects all the while it increases the number and frequency of seizures)
      • severe post-partum depression and psychosis
      • research now indicates a possible link between ovarian cancer and female fertility treatments, including "egg harvesting" from infertile women and donors
      • research also now indicates correlations between lower breast cancer survival rates and proximity in time to onset of cancer of last pregnancy
      • research also indicates a correlation between having six or more pregnancies and a risk of coronary and cardiovascular disease
    Less common (but serious) complications:




      • peripartum cardiomyopathy
      • cardiopulmonary arrest
      • magnesium toxicity
      • severe hypoxemia/acidosis
      • massive embolism
      • increased intracranial pressure, brainstem infarction
      • molar pregnancy, gestational trophoblastic disease
        (like a pregnancy-induced cancer)
      • malignant arrhythmia
      • circulatory collapse
      • placental abruption
      • obstetric fistula
    More permanent side effects:



      • future infertility
      • permanent disability
      • death."""""""""""""""""""




    You obviously cannot respond to the post you quoted....just have to repeat your mantra...you seem to have nothing else :)


    So is the list of the effects of pregnancy....why does that make you so angry....because I showed what women suffer in pregnancy and you want people to think the fetus does no damage???


    So can an abortion :)



    ...and a good reason to keep abortion legal....those who want to ban abortion want women to suffer the harm from pregnancy
     
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    Your endless diatribe about the bad effects of pregnancy can be totally avoided without killing a child. Use a rubber... use a diaphragm,...use THE PILL... use an IUD. And no child is murdered in the process. Killing an unborn child is simply not required.

    By the way, your endless diatribe of bad things about pregnancy can all be avoided with BIRTH CONTROL. Why, in your opinion, is killing and unborn child preferable to using birth control? Your list is the best argument for avoiding abortion and using birth control that I have ever seen!
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    But I bet she loves that "equal pay for equal work" that other women attained for her! I bet she likes to VOTE, something that other women attained for her as an equal right ... but she doesn't like "equality for women" ? She seems confused...




    She needs a pedestal?


    But shouldn't have equal rights....sorry but most women think not having equal rights (loss of bodily autonomy) does not make women happy.

    .


    Who cares...you seem to be running out of ammunition :) :) Need wifey in the mix..




    LOL, I KNEW you wouldn't have the faintest idea what "equal pay for equal work " means or entails.




    So what and how TF would YOU know what "most" women do or feel ???????>


    LOL, OH I get it! You and your wife were born in the 21st century and aren't aware there was a world BEFORE YOU WERE BORN!!!!

    'Splains a lot...;)
     
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    She earns MORE pay than most men in her profession. She's no victim... she's an ACHIEVER! You seem to embrace being a victim rather than being a success. Why is that?

    In her case, "equality" is a step down from her position of n achievement and success. You seem incapable of understanding that? Is no woman in your world successful and happy?

    Abortion is not a right. It hurts. Its bloody and painful... not to mention expensive. It kills little unborn kids. Why do you prefer that to using a condom, an IUD, a diaphragm or the pill? Why?

    My wife is no "wife". She is a successful attorney and CPA/EA. She doesn't think of herself as a victim as you do. She sees herself as a successful executive... but you can't understand that a woman can be successful and happy. Every reference you make to a woman is as a hapless victim. How sad.

    My wife doesn't settle for "equal pay" ... she earns "exceptional pay".

    There was a world before we were born. That's where you live. There is a world in the future... that's where we focus. And so do our kids.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    But I bet she loves that "equal pay for equal work" that other women attained for her! I bet she likes to VOTE, something that other women attained for her as an equal right ... but she doesn't like "equality for women" ? She seems confused...


    She needs a pedestal?


    But shouldn't have equal rights....sorry but most women think not having equal rights (loss of bodily autonomy) does not make women happy.

    .


    Who cares...you seem to be running out of ammunition :) :) Need wifey in the mix..

    LOL, I KNEW you wouldn't have the faintest idea what "equal pay for equal work " means or entails.




    So what and how TF would YOU know what "most" women do or feel ???????>

    YOU DON'T

    LOL, OH I get it! You and your wife were born in the 21st century and aren't aware there was a world BEFORE YOU WERE BORN!!!!

    'Splains a lot...;)




    You still have no idea what "equal pay for equal work" means or even why it had to be made into law....


    Have you heard of the 20th century? the 19th century ? That was when women couldn't get loans, vote, earn their own living, could be paid much less than the man next to them doing the same job, get turned down for jobs because they had a vagina, and be beaten and raped by their husbands with no recourse.

    AND WHO changed this ? WOMEN....women getting mad and wanting a better future for their daughters and grand daughters ....and women like your wife benefitted from their efforts and sacrifices and now , while she reaps the benefits, denigrates and denies them !!!!!!.....good GAWD get a GD history book!!!
     
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    You want abortion to be illegal.
     
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    Nope, your the one that has to prove BC wasn't used.
     
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    You don't seem to understand that a lot of times BC doesn't get used or doesn't work.
     
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    My wife EARNED the pay she gets. NONE of you victims did a thing to help her. hile you were out complaining and protesting, she was earning a JD and becoming a CPA/EA. YOU and the whiners whiners had NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. NOTHING AT ALL.

    She doesn't NEED a pedestal. She EARNED a pedestal. She never whined, complained, or became a VICTIM. She is an achiever. She was never interested in equal pay for equal work. Neither was I. We come from a different world than you do. We both believe in EXCEPTIONAL PAY FOR EXCEPTIONAL WORK.

    Sure we've heard of the 19th century. You must tell us about where you live sometime. We are firmly entrenched in the 21st century... where the thing you talk about are all gone. Folks in our time are focused on success and achievement, not medievil rape scenarios.

    Wallow in your focus on the past and its problems. We live in a much happier present. SUPERWIFE and I are much more oriented towards a bright and beautiful future. But do what you must to wallow in your... wallow.
     
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    I never wanted "equal pay for equal work". I wanted to become a success... earn LOTS OF MONEY FOR EXCEPTIONAL WORK. So did my wife. You are striving for mediocrity. Mediocrity.That's a sad world.

    My wife earned her own success. She never relied on anyone else to help her as you do. You need helpers. How sad.

    Wallow in your failure. Set your sights on being a victim.How sad
     
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    You "never got help from anybody."
    Nothing was "handed to you."
    All right.
    Let's say you scratched and you clawed and climbed the ladder of success. You never took a welfare check or charity, you worked three jobs to get through college. And at the end of it you look back on your labors and feel justified in saying, "I never got help from anybody."
    So ... you were never a child? From birth, you were hunting and gathering your own food? You never had a mother to "hand" you milk?
    You're completely self-educated? At age 4, you sought out your own knowledge, and paid teachers out of your own pocket?
    I don't think you did. I'd have seen something about it on the news.
    I think your parents poured untold resources into your hungry mouth. I think you had a roof over your head that was paid for by other people, I think you went to schools that were built and staffed and paid for by other people, I think you felt safe because the streets were patrolled by other people, I think you drove to your three jobs on roads paved by other people, in a car built by other people and burning oil that was drilled by other people in a nation whose borders were defended by other people.
     
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    :) He was born not long ago of the generation who didn't know the world existed until they , The Royal Them, were born ;)
     
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    Again. Never have I ever written that. Please stop lying.
     
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    Most Americans support abortion rights, as do people in most advanced nations.

    Authoritarian regimes that crush personal liberty do not.
     
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    Most Americans support some limits on abortion, as do people in most advanced nations.

    Authoritarian regimes that crush personal liberty allow abortion right up until the moment before birth.
     
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    How is that "crushing personal liberties"....that isn't logical.
     
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    And they FAIL :roll:

    How many times do I have to post stats on “typical” use failure rates?

    If you are so concerned about use of contraceptives- I have to ask - are you a supporter of subsisted access to LARCS
     
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    Indeed. Americans had approved, by a large margin, of Roe v Wade that had guaranteed regulated freedom for half-a-century.

    The authoritarians who pushed for more State intrusion by politicians and bureaucrats cost the GOP dearly in the 2022 midterms according to Trump:

    Trump Says 'Abortion Issue,' Not He, Is to Blame for GOP Midterm Losses

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    “It was the abortion issue!"


    Americans are now taking measures to protect themselves against politicians invading their privacy, inlcuding their mail and medical records, in retrogressive states.
     
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    Democrats and their politicians looooooooooooooooove Abortion, because it's just another way for them not to be held accountable for their actions. Just like everything else. lol
     
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    Having an abortion is not 'abdicating personal responsibility"... it's exercising it.
     
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    Maybe liberal boys, that say they're men, should "exercise" self control more, with their wankers then? or start wrapping it more.

    Instead of being players. The vast majority of households that grow up without a father, are liberal scum fathers that don't stick around, because they are gutless cowards. and not real men at all.
     
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    conservatives father plenty of bastards, and conservative women have their share (and more) of abortions.
     
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