23 Baltimore schools have zero students proficient in math, per state test results

Could this be the result of Common Core? All of the kids have no one to turn to for help because all of the adults were raised before it went into effect?

 

I bet there's a disciplinary problem as boys without father figures in their life tend to lack discipline.

Baltimore is extremely high crime I think it's one of the worst in the nation I'm not sure on that.

Let's also not forget that there was a shutdown of schools all because there was a president in office that people didn't like. It wasn't about a virus that was an excuse.

So it becomes these people will literally sacrifice the future of their children to get their way.

I see a few solutions. Schools can hire particularly black and Hispanic men to teach. Andcontrol students in the classroom. But what all this does is take away from the solutions some people want to work. They want feminism and racial diversity to work. And they want to believe discipline and structure creates an imaginary pipeline between schools and prisons.

There isn't a pipeline because that suggests that people have no control over it they are directed there.

This is false there is a tendency for people who never experience any kind of discipline (and discipline isn't punishment it's expectations and lack of reward for not meeting expectations) to not know how to be disciplined later in life.

I also think a lot of mathematics in school k through 12 at least are more advanced than they need to be. Arithmetic divisions attraction so forth and I think it's important that people learn how to do fractions. I want people should be learning I'm business and money handling math. In high school unless you've got someone bound to be an engineer there's no reason to teach calculus I would say even if you're an engineer it's not necessary depending on what kind of engineer you are. Awesome algebra I have used it in my life in some very limited areas particularly to do with banking and because I worked as a mechanic having to do with electronics and fluid power dynamics.

But that's not difficult to understand I went to mechanic school with some Podunk hick farm boys. They may have struggled with fractions and so forth because they hadn't done them since 4th grade but they grasped onto it pretty quickly cuz the teachers that taught it were real about it.

I'm one of those people that happens to be a math brain I'm not gifted or anything I'm just an average person but it's a process of following steps. Do the steps enough and remember where they are and how they form and that's all the math is.

I had a Nigerian mathematics teacher in college and he had a very thick accent but he taught mathematics the way he learned it in his home country and it might have been a little cringe to see a bunch of adults in a classroom together singing mathematical equations but I will never forget the quadratic formula and I have not used it in 20 years.

If this ever comes up in your life and you're trying to teach your kids this sort of thing find the quadratic formula song It's a thing.

 

Common core doesn't actually change math or science. It's still the same old math and science.

It does connect math to real world problems.

And, it does change the way curricula are designed, as it depends more heavily on kids actually learning the material so it can be used in subsequent classes.

 

My sister taught the quadratic song in US high school math!

Your idea about not having dads is poorly thought through. In many families it is the mother who sets and enforces the principles of how one behaves.

COVID was a disaster for education. No doubt. But, there is also no doubt that forcing teachers to be in crowded classrooms with kids forced to attend would have been unconscionable. There is plenty of data showing that teachers were contracting COVID at a significantly higher rate that others in their communities, as one would expect from CDC analysis.

Also, the problems that exist in classrooms (from teacher shortages to everything else) did NOT start with COVID. It's been a problem in US education for DECADES.

I would point out that there are whole political directions aimed at devaluing education. And, when education is devalued, it leads to lack of parental participation at home, disinterest by students, moves in compensation and environment that make teaching less interesting as a choice of profession, etc.

 

Think there’s a connection between the murder rate and lack of education?

 

I would argue two parents is better than one.

No the stupid reaction to it was.

Locking down was way worse. The damage done buy this idiocy will be felt for generations. And you can't even show that it did anything.

It was a scam to get rid of Donald Trump.

in but interested in the stupid covid religion.

Must be something wrong with the education system. People don't want to fix it because it means abandoning stupid leftist ideas. It's only gotten worse since I was there.

Indoctrination not education. I know some people don't understand the difference. Those consumed by culture war idiocy. Until people let that go we won't advance.

Education is devalued because the braindead morons in charge have 23 schools where nobody is proficient in basic math.

That's not education it's a lack there of.

 

This is just anti-science nonsense that has been addressed over and over.

 

So, tell me how our government is going to change the number of parents in a family.

Are you going to make divorce illegal?

Are you going to make it illegal to adopt unless you are living with a legal spouse?

If one parent dies, are you hoping the government will take the kids?

I just want to know what you are talking about here, as it SOUNDS like you want to get our government involved in each person's family life.

 

Accusing me of my blasphemy doesn't work. I'm skeptical of your religion.

 

Stop rewarding women for leaving their male partners.

No, just the cash and prizes for doing it.

No one parent is better than no parents.

That's facile.

In not talking about any of the strawman fallacies you created.

Leftist take as leftists are the ones who believe the government is the solution to every problem.

No I want our government to step out of it. It's government that rewards women for leaving their partners. And it makes sure they have custody of children.

Just like the school problem this is caused by government trying to solve something they had no business in.

It would help if you could try to think outside of your limits.

 

Sorry. You can be snide, dismissive or whatever.

Those were serious situations that result in where we are today with single parenthood.

And, the fact that you can't answer isn't good enough.

 

I don't respect strawmanning that's absolutely all you did.

No they are obscure what ifs to avoid the truth.

I know when I'm cutting to the bone by the amount of defensive nonsense I have to sort through.

I was pointing out the problem you are inadvertently explain why it has persisted for decades.

I answered. You just didn't like the answer.

Truth is the mother of all hatred Will.

 

Don't know math! DNC plan in full swing

 

I gave you solid reasons for single parent families today.

And, YOU just want to ignore them.

That's just plain failure.

 

Are you suggesting divorce is superior to a living family?

Is it better a single person adopts a child verses a living couple?

is it better that a mother or father dies than stays alive?

This is why I said your argument was a strawman. I didn't say a single parent is unacceptable. I said two is better.

It's obviously better if a couple works out their problems and stays together if it's possible.

 

Yeah it still didn't mean one parent is better than two.

No I addressed then even though you're comment couldn't be less relevant.

Yeah it's everybody else and never you that is mistaken.

 

I also addressed your points separately in post 91 with regard to what I said.

So that's twice I addressed them from two different angles.

 

This may be breaking news for you, but not all problems are solvable by the government. Baltimore had bad school results 20 years ago, and will have bad results 20 years from now.

 

One thing that no one should question, is that you can't create a healthy, working society with ignorant people.
If kids are going to school and failing to learn, there must be an environment there which is failing.
The teachers job is to teach- the students job is to learn. Both have to work.
The people who oversee the systems control the environment of education, and that too must work- their job is to maintain a situation promotes and produces positive results.
That requires a discipline that removes teachers that cannot or will not teach-
AND requires a discipline that removes students that cannot or will not learn, and especially those that disrupt the ability for others to learn.

How we deal with those students is another issue- special schools or treatments, but if we fail to remove them from the primary learning environment, we destroy the opportunity for both willing teachers and willing students to succeed, and fail our own children.

No matter what a society does, there will always be anti-social people around. A healthy society simply cannot allow those who would destroy it to control it.

 

I'm curious how much of their time is on iReady, Lexia Core and Study Island as opposed to teacher instruction.

 

A failing education system is the first sign of a declining super power.

 

A sad reality.

 

Life’s too short to worry about a healthy working society. It’s all about the me generation.

 

Who needs an education to become a Tik Tok star?

 

If one is looking for an example of a systemic reason why too much of black America remains an economic underclass, here it is.

Step one toward fixing this problem: break the teachers unions and bring meaningful school choice to parents.