Gun Deaths Per Capita By State

what about local gov influences that? I ask because those states with a lot of red actually have blue mayors in the cities. you know, the actual local gov that you deal with every single day?

 

So another common link is low income areas are more likely found in Red states than Blue states? Anecdotally, suicides have not been seen linked to income

 

Already addressed that.

 

are you sure? because in most of those states it's the blue cities where the problem lies, you can't pretend the local gov who is a part of the courts, the police, and the criminals isn't the first involved and has the most influence.

 

Cities have the leadership that addresses the issues in cities.

Also, it's unusual to have a city where the mayor makes the laws and regulations that cities make.

 

Yes, already addressed. Firearm death rates in Blue cities in Blue states are lower than Blue cities in Red states

 

what do you attribute that to? that mopes in red states tend to engage in their felonious activities only in areas where their peeps run things since if they ventured out to red areas, things might be a bit tough on them

 

most dangerous areas in the USA-
https://vanlifewanderer.com/2020/12/20/most-dangerous-neighborhoods-in-united-states/

 

Yes, poverty may well be a serious factor.

But, those shooting our children in schools don't appear to be looking for a solution to poverty.

This problem is more complex than blaming it on thugs who acquired guns through illegitimated means.

 

it also is far more complex than pretending that laws designed to harass lawful gun ownership will do a damn thing to alleviate violent criminal actions

 

Those who kill people with guns INCLUDE LAWFUL GUN OWNERS.

Our history of slaughtering children in schools has included many fully lawful gun owners, for example.

Our history of domestic murders is commonly carried out be lawful gun owners.

Of course, after their bullet pierced their first victim's brain, they weren't so "lawful", or maybe it was just an accident?

Also, if someone has a gun that they did not legally obtain, that is a problem that needs to get attention.

 

Once again, no. You’re not a legal gun owner when you abuse the right. Unless you’re gonna investigate thought crimes and crimes before they happen you’re wasting your breath. Making things up doesn’t help your case.

 

Nope

 

??? Because there is no need for me to cite what you have already cited, silly.

 

I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again. In states with lax gun laws you have far less violent crime rates. Maybe it’s because we’re allowed to defend ourselves from the crazies.

 

Cool chart.

The approach to safety has to be more like identifying indicators and attempting to address them.

We do that with background checks. But, as you point out, there is no real way to determine how the weapon will be used once the perp has the gun.

In other words, our idea of "legal gun owner" is seriously weak, and certainly justifies improvement.

 

I think you are trying to redefine the problem.

Gun death is the problem being discussed here.

That's a far clearer definition of a problem than is "violent crime".

 

Gun deaths fall into violent crime. It could be said that these states see their problem children killed in gun crimes which slows down other crimes. You can’t selectively pick the type of violent crime you want to consider. If you did you would be ignoring the bigger picture and creating an environment that fosters more violent crime without guns.

 

Yes, you absolutely can select the violent crime you want to consider.

We do that ALL THE TIME. Dividing intolerable behaviors is a required step in finding appropriate solutions.

Plus gun deaths aren't always crime. Yet, it is gun deaths that are of concern. It's a valid category.

 

we’ve never had that, Lori lightfoot the raging idiot is what we end up with. Mayors have a huge influence on elected judges and policies for law enforcement.

 

The term is too broad and doesn't allow for self defense or suicide. Not every shooting is a crime but lumped under one term merely owning a gun makes one suspect. Isn't that kind of the purpose of the argument you make?

 

Killed by a gun? That's a gun death.

This ain't rocket surgery Mang.

 

I think self defense (as defined today) and suicide are BOTH aspects that need to be improved significantly.

The purpose here is to motivate work toward reducing gun death.

 

Well, in Wyoming that wins the highest gun death rate, 86% of gun deaths are by suicide. You could eliminate all those gun deaths, and death by suicide by other means would likely remain the same.