Gun Deaths Per Capita By State

Please cite studies upon which yo base your claim of likelihood.

Studies such as this:
https://academic.oup.com/aje/article/178/6/946/111054

suggest an association between guns being available and successful suicides.


There could well be ways of addressing suicide, by the way.

One might wonder why that many people in Wyoming shoot themselves to death.

 

tell us why the rights of 100 million be curtailed because some people want to off themselves?

 

I don't accept your premise.

Beyond that, suicide is a serious tragedy for a far larger number of people than the one victim.

Those who are saved from suicide can be helped to live out a long, productive, happy life.

 

and banning guns will cause far more harm than the left claims and will do far less (if any) good.

 

I call BS on that when the "solutions" are laughably bogus attempts to stop gun deaths but are clearly designed to reduce lawful gun use and ownership

 

Maybe that's why nobody proposes banning guns.

 

Some people don't want to be saved.

 

horsepoop. all but six democrats in the last congress voted to ban AR 15 and similar rifles. that is PROPOSING TO BAN GUNS

and if we believe their bullshit that the reason to ban (something that is used in less than one percent of all murders) is to stop (one percent or less of ) murders, than they have to want to ban handguns which are used in over 2/3ds the murders

 

Which ones do you not like?

 

Oh all the unconstitutional ones
all the ones that are designed to pander to stupid people who want something done but are intended to hassle lawful gun owners

1) waiting periods
2) limits on how many guns you can buy in a week, a day or a month
3) bans or extra restrictions on any firearms that civilian police have access to
4) magazine restrictions
5) Private background checks at a federal level

there are more but this is a start

 

What a whine!!

6 Dems, trying to show their constituents that they are still trying to make a difference.

Do you have any idea how many guns you can choose from?

 

you didn't read very well-all but SIX DEMOCRATS VOTED TO BAN SEMI AUTO RIFLES. Those people are ALL GUN BANNERS-proving your claim was incorrect.

I love the attitude-it's not gun banning to ban the most commonly owned rifle in the USA and thirty more like to since you can own other guns. It's as stupid as saying a ban on say Christian churches is not banning religion since someone can always go to Jewish Temples or Islamic Mosques

 

Yes, you could get some good mass killings with that! Reduce background checks, allow lots of rounds, etc.

 

you are assuming facts you know don't exist-that your desire for those stupid laws would actually work say better than prohibition and the war on drugs. What you do know is that such laws would be a major obstacle to lawful gun use and ownership and your posting history is one that shows that harassment of legal gun ownership is your real purpose

 

Now, you keep whining!

The idea that EVERY gun MUST be legal is not a measure of anything but total insanity.

If you say "gun banning", you have to mean something. So far, all I hear is nonsense.

 

the burden is on the gun banners to establish why a gun can be banned. and right now, the supreme court has ruled that firearms in common use for lawful purposes are protected. That pretty much puts a serious crimp in the disgusting constitutionally depraved schemes of the gun banners. The idea that things should be made ILLEGAL because an extremely small portion of them are used illegally is the thinking of a fascist.

 

And a different color for children? Would that work as well?

 

Depends. it turns out the whole "guns are leading deaths of children" is bullshit since up to age 12 the leading cause of death is actually cancer. the more you dig, the better you are at solving the problem. oh, and over half of the deaths are thugs shooting thugs. so, make a column for that.

 

It’s not just Wyoming. High altitude is highly correlated with suicide rates. It’s believed hypoxia, known to lead to depression and poor moods, is the culprit. Low serotonin production from an enzyme deficiency caused by hypoxia seems to be the physiological pathway.

Pretty boring compared to wall to wall media coverage of blood and gore, I know….

 

Black Americans have always been a priority target for gun banners.
A serious opposition party would support issuing handguns and functional carry rigs for minorities to carry concealed whenever the feel they need protection.

Power to the People is the best solution to most social problems.

 

Good post!

I hadn't hear of that.

 

What sub group that lives in these violent Red States?

 

There aren't any "gun banners" and I see no evidence of racial targeting in attempts to reduce gun death.

The idea that MORE guns on our streets will reduce gun deaths is something that would require SERIOUS evidence.

 

Thanks. We need to focus on suicide if we are targeting reducing public mass shootings especially. It’s the big elephant in the room we are mostly ignoring. Most public mass shootings are a method of suicide at their core. This means generalized imitation and social contagion factors are driving the increased frequency.

The WHO and other organizations issue guidance to media outlets advising them to not sensationalize suicide or suicide methods as the research shows abstaining from doing so has profound positive impacts on future suicides and methods used.

Media outlets in general have been cooperative in suicide methods like hanging etc. but when it comes to suicide by mass shooting they actively engage in reporting methods known to induce copycatting of suicide method and increase frequency.

I should probably start a thread on the topic but I’ve floated trial balloons and can’t get anyone to move past “it’s the guns”.

 

Good points.

I might suggest that while there certainly are a lot of cases where the shooter didn't plan to live, that might not have been the motivating factor.

In the cases of kids who were bullied mercilessly in school and then came back with murderous intent, it may be that they saw payback as more important than their lives, or considered their own likely death as an exclamation point on the tragedy.

The payback being more important than life might apply in other cases, too. And, there are plenty of other cases where the killer made no plans.

All well worth thinking about!