Biden needs to issue an EO to deal with the crisis

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  1. Kal'Stang

    Kal'Stang Well-Known Member

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    That is simply irrational.
     
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    Who is “they” and what is “it”? If you mean in your unclear, non-specific way “are you saying the government sold my gun to me in the first place?” I’m saying that is irrelevant. I didn’t sell you your gun, so am I not allowed to buy it from you? duh

    Ever hear of Presidential emergency powers?
     
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    It’s jokes like this that cannot be taken seriously. Too bad all that wasted energy wasn’t spent disarming criminals. Of course, that’s the tough thing to do, and not the easy and ineffective emotional response.

    any reason for not going after the criminals first?
     
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    Riiiiiiiight. Check into New Zealand and Australia.
     
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    In the context of a forced 'buyback'? They are the government and it is a firearm.
    You're certainly not using the correct term when you say "buy back" if you didn't sell it to me in the first place. What you mean is "forced sale under penalty of cruel and unusual punishment in conscious and intentional violation of the explicit terms of the 8th amendment". But you don't get so many friendly faces when you say it that way.

    LOL none of that can override the 8th amendments clear prohibition on cruel and unusual punishment.

    All: Please note now he wants a DICTATOR to simply arrange all this cruel and unusual punishment.
    He thinks that makes it better.
     
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    …in your mind.
     
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    Because the criminals aren't the targets of his ire, the law abiding are.
     
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    Facts seem irrational to those who have trouble processing facts.
     
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    Yes.
     
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    So you insist we be compliant with your personal idea of language precision. Are you kidding?

    Check into New Zealand and Australia if you want to see effective buy-back programs.

    Presidential emergency powers can be used to run a buy-back program with strong enough deterrent to work. And it can be tied up in courts long enough to get the job done. Presidential emergency powers can also be used to override the courts.
     
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    I insist you use a correct term or I'll mock you for not doing so, yes.

    No one gives a flying **** about your shitty little penal colonies, and its not a buy back. Its a forced confiscation.

    Presidential emergency powers cannot write legislation. Presidential emergency powers cannot create criminal statutes and penalties. Presidential emergency powers do not exist that can allow the use of cruel and unusual punishments against the citizenry. Presidential emergency powers cannot be used to override the courts.

    Cite what you think provides this power. Be specific.
     
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    Mexico has far more stringent gun control laws (can't even leave your house with a gun stringent) than the US. Even in Australia you can take your single shot gun out of your house. Why not use them as an example? Oh right...because it doesn't fit the narrative.
     
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    GL with that in the US. The gun buy back programs here in the US only got old guns that are never used anyways and broken guns. And no, there is no Presidential Emergency Power that can over ride SCOTUS.
     
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    Nope, in reality.
     
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    So disarm the people who need protection from criminals. When are you going after the actual criminals, may I ask? Is there any reason not to start with them?
     
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    The government can't buy back something they didn't sell.

    Although I hear the line at such events is a great place to go and pick up firearms for a great price.

    Evidently people like to get the market value out of their guns if they're going to get rid of them
     
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    Letting my emotions rule????

    Absolutely effing right! Thanks for showing how you don't give a damn about innocent men, women, and children so long as you can play with your gun. You are part of the problem and offer vague solutions that do schit to keep any whacko from going into any gun store and purchasing a weapon of war to exact their imbecilic revenge.
     
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    Your only suggestion is to limit the possession of firearms to cops, the military, and criminals. It's not a workable solution.
     
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    Show me where you think I said that.
     
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    That's always the leftist position. Do you have any other suggestions aside from throwing an emotionally charged rant at the problem?
     
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    See post #167
     
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    Yes. I read your cute little rant already. Got any suggestions for solutions?
     
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    Is your finger broken? Go to the OP.
     
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    Yeah, see post #170.

    It's not a workable solution as others have already stated. What do you tell the poor minority woman who's ex has been threatening her? "Oh sorry, you can't have a gun for defense. Maybe you need to cool off while you are strangled to death".
     
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    Surprise! I don't own any guns. So there goes that "theory". Try again?

    And I care about em just fine. I just don't think something that affects .001% of the population should be calls for changing an entire society. I also don't think that our government who makes laws for millions of people should be ruled by emotions. And if you think about it with a level head you wouldn't want such either.

    Also, I've given you several very specific examples of things that we could do to reduce ALL violence, not just "gun violence". But you have no interest in them because it doesn't suit your agenda.
     
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