Thirteen-year-old girl is forced to give birth under Mississippi abortion ban

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  1. omni

    omni Well-Known Member

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    I have already shown that clinic does not provide abortion services.
     
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    You need parental permission at 17.
     
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    I oppose abortion unless it is necessary to preserve the mother's life.
    If she doesn't want the child, she should put it up for adoption.
    Everyone has a right to be alive or come to life, even the unborn. :)
     
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    This is Mississippi's abortion statute - where do you see any language requiring proof of rape?

    What the law requires is the filing of a formal charge or rape with an appropriate law enforcement official. I'm not seeing anything about proof of rape or what the police conclude.

    Furthermore, as a 13 year old any such proof or conclusions would be superfluous since her pregnancy would have been the result of statutory rape.
     
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    duh and you said you couldn't serve at 17, which was another case of you being dead wrong.
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    See Post #104 above.

    I'm curious how the police were supposedly incompetent here, much less how their competence is even relevant.
     
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    As usual you can't get your facts straight.
    https://yourchoices.org/memphis/abortion-clinic-memphis-tn/

    Bottom line the girl could've gotten an abortion and choose not to. Similarly, she chose not to report the rape, which leads us to believe there are some family issues and someone is trying to make this horribly sad situation political. I agree a women should have a choice and I agree there should be a limit like 15 weeks with rape and medical exceptions. I also agree Mississippian's have a right to choose for themselves, plenty of states around them if one really wants an abortion. If you can afford an abortion, you can drive a couple hours.
     
  8. omni

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    Once again, you are wrong, but won't admit it.

    https://yourchoices.org/abortions/

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    Our Carbondale, IL clinic is now seeing patients. Please call us to make an abortion appointment. Abortion services are not available in Memphis due to a law banning abortions entirely in the state of Tennessee."

    The link you posted is from 2021. Here is the original link that leads to the one you posted.

    https://yourchoices.org/memphis/

    Note that date
     
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    Needing ones parents permission I consider an exception. In addition, the candidate needs to meet other requirements.

    That aside, this about the 13 yr old getting raped and being required to keep it. She can possibly die from the complications due to her size. Just about every republican would get an abortion if that were their daughter.
     
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    Fine I'll chalk it up to my petty semantics.
     
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    He also is ignorant of the fact that prior to WWI, lots of 17 year olds or even younger enlisted. Where do you think the term INFANTRY comes from? A good friend of mine-sadly passed, was a CSM when he died-he served at Tarawa at age 17, served in the Rangers in Korea, and Nam. he went in the day he turned 17
     
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    Doesn't matter what the article says, it matters is what the law says. Again, she was 13, doesn't matter whether they "proved" she was raped. The law says she was raped. Age of consent is 16 in Mississippi. Anything below that is rape. Period. The fact that she was pregnant shows that she was raped. The law also states that anyone raped just has to report it to the police to get an abortion. She could have gotten an abortion. If a doctor would not perform an abortion on a 13 year old obvious rape victim then that is on them, not the law. There is no ambiguity in the law on the fact that she was raped and that current law allows rape victims to have an abortion.
     
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    Any doctor can perform an abortion. You do not need to go to a specialized abortion provider. So try again.
     
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    So much for the all powerful gawd......
     
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    Can you name any other instance where someone is forced by the state to give their body or organs to someone unwillingly?

    The right to life means nothing if one does not have the right of bodily autonomy.
     
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    Ok, so why is there a need for a police report is being pregnant is enough proof of rape? Stupid people create stupid laws.
     
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    Oh stop. There are plenty of gay couples looking to adopt......
     
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    Too bad leftists take abortion too far.
     
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    So they can catch the rapist, duh. You're trying to ignore the fact that she's 13 and under Mississippi law that automatically is proof of rape.
     
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    This particular case has nothing to do with bodily autonomy. The girl was raped, being pregnant at 13 is proof of that. Under the law she could have gotten an abortion by any doctor in the area willing to do it.

    Speaking in general, and not about children, but adults that are not raped... a ZEF has as much right to bodily autonomy as the woman. And there is no right to bodily autonomy if there is no right to life. "Means nothing" is trumped so try again.
     
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    God has nothing to do with this. Your attempt to insult conservatives for their beliefs is noted though.
     
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    Sorry - this is a GOP crime.

    It's a crime by the rapist, too.

    But, that does NOT excuse the GOP, who fully know that this problem exists and still carry out this atrocity.

    It's further exacerbated by a complete FAILURE of education DEMANDED by the GOP, as there is no excuse for this youngster not to know of rape and its ramifications.

    This is what ignorance and governmental incompetence bring.
     
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    Are you suggesting that sex education at the grade school level is supported by the GOP?

    You're just making really silly excuses. She rightfully has full bodily autonomy. A fetus simply does not, as it is a part of the woman's body with all health related issues combined under the rights of the woman.
     
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    Again, why is it a requirement for abortion, if its automatically rape, - no other proof needed?

    Lets not pretend it has something to do with catching the rapist, when its clear its all about sticking it to the abortion applicant.
     
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