Thirteen-year-old girl is forced to give birth under Mississippi abortion ban

WTH does sex education got to do with this at all? The girl was raped. There IS an exception in the law for people that are raped. There IS a law showing that anyone under the age of 16 is raped. The only one making silly excuses is you.

 

Most of these laws are written for adults.

 

You can believe whatever you want. But you don't get to have your own facts.

Fact #1: Mississippi Law provides exceptions for rape.
Fact #2: Under Mississippi Law any minor under the age of 16 is considered to have been raped. This girl was 13.
Fact #3: This girl could have gotten a legal abortion by any doctor willing to perform the abortion.

 

This is a problem with politicians trying to write healthcare laws.

They follow their religious doctrine or whatever they think will sell, while clearly not knowing anything about healthcare.

 

It’s not about a woman though is it? It’s about a pregnant child who doesn’t really have any rights. They need to write clear abortion laws for children.

 

What doctor wants to perform an an abortion in the state when they get threatened with lawsuits and jail?

 

Clinics had to fly doctors in from out of state because being an abortion provider is stigmatized. People keep saying there are exceptions but ignore the reality that providers don't want to perform the procedure due to threats.

 

The link I posted is their memphis website. They open tomorrow at 8:30, their number is 901-274-3550. They offer both the abortion pill and surgical abortions. Your link is from 2021, now do 2023 lol.

 

Your link is from 2021. The center is still open, but they do not provide abortion services. Click on your link and then click schedule an appointment. You are brought to this. Admit you were wrong.


https://yourchoices.org/contact/

 

You can believe whatever you want. But you don't get to have your own facts.

Fact #1: Mississippi Law provides exceptions for rape.
Fact #2: Under Mississippi Law any minor under the age of 16 is considered to have been raped. This girl was 13.
Fact #3: This girl could have gotten a legal abortion by any doctor willing to perform the abortion.

 

No lawsuit or jail time would apply in this case. Try again.

 

It's insanity. In the United States, the age of consent varies by state, but it is generally between 16 and 18 years old. This means that if a person under the age of consent engages in sexual activity, it is considered statutory rape, even if the activity was consensual. In the case of a 13-year-old female who is pregnant, it is possible that she has been a victim of statutory rape That's my understanding of the law, any lawyers want to chime it, feel free to do so.

And, in my view, forcing that child to give birth at her age is dangerous to her physical health (not to mention mental and emotional health, as well) and by that fact, this is equal to child abuse, in my not-so-humble opinion.

 

Mother and child are physically connected before birth. That's nature, not "the state".
If you want to break this connection, you have to kill either mom, child or both.
Not an option that I would ever accept.

 

You don't know that. I'm sure there is some overzealous prosecutor in the state wanting to show that abortion is wrong in all instances and will provide an example of a pregnant pre teen kid who gave birth as evidence it is not medically harmful.

I'm sure doctors are willing to put their lives on the line for that.

 

It's a little bit dangerous to her health, but not too much.
Even at 13 years of age, fewer than 1 in 1000 will die from vaginal delivery in a hospital setting. And often when the girl is that young they will sometimes do a C-section and remove the baby a month or two early, and then the mortality rate is even lower.

The main thing that harmed her emotional health was the sexual assault. That is not is not going to change. Abortion can also lead to harming a woman's emotional health, just as much if not more as carrying a baby.

 

Yes, I do know that because no prosecutor would try a case that they would easily lose.

 

Yes, it's very embarrassing to most all prosecutors to be "proven wrong" or to lose.
It doesn't look good for their office or their career.

I can't foresee any prosecutor going after a woman - especially a young teen girl - who lots of the public are going to have sympathy towards, when the chance of winning the case is less than 70%. In rare situations they will try a case that only has a 50% chance of winning but there has to be some reason for them to really hate the person and want to go after them, which is obviously not going to be the case with this.
Another reason they are reluctant to try cases that do not have a high chance of success is they usually want to try to avoid cases having to go to trial, and those cases are much more likely to go to trial.

 

Yep, also affects their chances of being elected again or of ever rising up to higher office, and that is what most "overzealous prosecutors" are about, rising up.

 

Then she should have been allowed to have an abortion ESPECIALLY since teen pregnancies carry a much higher risk to the mother

 

Yes, there are. Perhaps a prosecutor looking to make a name for themselves. Anything can happen during a trial. Why would a doctor want to risk their life?

 

It is a lot dangerous to her health for the simple reason that her body and the foetus have to compete for the same nutrients

WTF are you getting your stats? One of the so called “pro- life sites?

https://bmcpregnancychildbirth.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12884-016-1120-8

And a mortality rate of 1:1000 is HUGE.

 

And yet it failed

 

I get that you are hinting, suggesting, nay, shouting that both views are equal, but, I disagree, there is a tremendous disparity between the two. I'm not sure if your data is accurate.

https://www.nicswell.co.uk/health-news/teenage-pregnancy-death-concern
The report, from the charity Save the Children, highlights the fact that girls under the age of 15 are five times more likely to die in pregnancy than women in their 20s, and that babies born to younger mothers are also at greater risk.

A cursory search came up with the above, and it counters yours. Who's right? I'll let y'all duke it out. In the meantime...

I don't think it is for the government to make that decision (of abortion), a decision which, in my view, should be between her, her doctor, and her parents. Where the government cannot avoid involvement is on the matter of viability, which is for the courts to decide, and ultimately the Supreme Court, the same the supreme court who has, in my view, taken a cop out of late by kicking the can down to the states, which creates a bit of chaos as different states will have a different policy, further increasing tensions between the red and blue states -- all of this brought to us by the Dobbs ruling --- apparently it's too big of a political hot potato for the Supreme Court's delicate hands to hang on to.

 

Because the fetus was now up to 11 weeks gestation. It was getting into "iffy" territory.

You can argue a 13 year old girl in this situation should have been able to get an abortion, but the fact is the people of Mississippi had clearly decided that 11 weeks gestation was too far along to be getting abortions in general.

 

It actually doesn't. Maybe you should try doing some math instead of relying on quick impressions and emotion.