Garland sues SpaceX for not hiring aliens. Demands Musk hire them and give them back pay

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  1. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    do women have less rights in relation to their bodily autonomy now, then they did prior to the prior Republican administration? Also, illegals are not protected in employment law people that are applying for asylum and have been allowed into the country legally, are.

    it is an exaggeration, and it should fuel anger.
     
  2. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Shouldn't it be up to taxpayers then to say Musk must higher illegals over taxpaying citizens?
     
  3. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So We the People ARE government. Do we get a say?
     
  4. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    this is not about hiring illegals, they are not asking him to hire illegals

    that said, yes, it should be up to the business to hire immigrants applying for citizenship that are not yet full Americans
     
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    You cannot hire illegal immigrants who do not have a green card.
     
  6. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    they have current legal status, they are not here illegally

    that said, the business should still be able to decide to hire them or not, especially a business like SpaceX
     
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    And that legal status is limbo.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    they are legally here waiting to see if they become full legal Americans, they are not here illegally

    if they are here illegally, that would be a different story
     
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  9. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They apply for citizenship before illegally invading. You got that mixed up.
     
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    Does Garland not have other issues a little more important than this?.... like maybe.... how there was his agency and special counsel was/is involved in a coverup?... asking for a friend...
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    if they overstay after denied, then they are illegals
     
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    And 90% of such claims are rejected ergo Limbo.
     
  13. Reality

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    Once they've been GRANTED asylum? Sure.

    When they're in the application process and on their own recognizance? Not so much.
     
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    Not when you're lobbing rockets into space and back.
     
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    Don't forget the Chinese, and the Indians.
     
  16. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    once rejected, they are illegals if they stay
     
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    You realize one of the largest illegal populations are white canadians........ right? Visa overstays mostly.
    It has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with nationality IE that's your nation, this is ours, and we don't have to let in every tom dick and harry who wants to come over.
    Particularly since we have birthright citizenship, we have every right not to open the flood gates and to be selective.

    Further: Plenty of people in South and Central America are both brown and descendants of persons who were enslaved.

    FFS, come up with a new line. Stop letting cheetodick live rent free in your head man.
     
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    Why do you fight the hook this way?
    You understand that we are all aware of various mayors announcing their city's sanctuary status?
    They invited illegals over, publicly. They got what they asked for.
     
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    FFS its a defense related industry. They're lobbing rockets into space and retrieving them. You don't hire random foreign persons for that type of industry.
     
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    So no woman anywhere in the US can get abortion services. Is that really your thinking?

    OK,your statement is a little convoluted: " illegals are not protected in employment law people that are applying for asylum and have been allowed into the country legally, are." What part of 'illegal' isn't clear, in your own statement? They shouldn't be effing working!!
     
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    Their application can be DENIED.
    I'm not hiring someone whose status is in flux.
    I'm certainly not hiring someone who retains foreign loyalties to work in a high tech defense related industry that has access to actual cruise missile equivalents.
     
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    yep, and I said the same, it's a security risk

    they are not illegals, but they are not Americans either

    and if they are later denied, how would the employer even know

    I will agree, this seems to be a petty attack on SpaceX
     
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    That depends on who is paying for the services. Sometimes it is a private contractor who is using the facilities to launch satellites, like what Elon Musk does with his communications satellites. And then there are the government payers who use the Falcon 9 rocket to launch spy satellites. Big difference
     
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    that depends on the reason for the denial. If it is a private contracting job, then by definition and by law, national origin or immigration status is not a valid reason. Might as well say "No blacks allowed" type of a thing.
     
  25. Reality

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    No, there is not a big difference. You don't work on defense industry technology, whether private or public contract, as an asylum seeker.
    SpaceX launches rockets, you don't work for SpaceX launching rockets or working in a facility that does unless you can pass the same **** you'd have to pass to obtain a security clearance. Asylum seekers? Don't pass the standard and so telling them don't bother to apply is not wrongful. Its actually helpful and candid.
     

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