The disorienting, and dangerous, appropriation of language.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Lee Atwater, Aug 21, 2023.

  1. Collateral Damage

    Collateral Damage Well-Known Member

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    Just a suggestion, but one has problems taking a person's post seriously when the poster has a need to mutilate names, make up labels and thinking their opinion is fact.

    If Trump is guilty of something, then he shall be held accountable. Until then, your labels are nothing but an attempt to convince someone of your opinion.
     
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  2. Noone

    Noone Well-Known Member

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    How dare me post "my opinion" in a forum titled "Political Opinions & Beliefs. :shock:
     
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  3. Darthcervantes

    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is the result of a certain condition that consists of 3 letters which for some CRAZY reason is not allowed to be said in these forums.
     
  4. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "They" who?
     
  5. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I never did. I would refer to said person as a transgender.
     
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    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The ruling elite, and their propaganda machine.
     
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    Speaking of Orwell: BLOWS AGAINST THE EMPIRE: ‘Legal’ concerns halt NIH $154 million ‘false information’ program. “A federal court is considering a lawsuit brought by plaintiffs who allege the federal government colluded with Big Tech companies to silence their speech, often critical of COVID policies or the integrity of the 2020 presidential election.”

    LEGAL CONCERNS over the suppression of speech that Bribed Joe and his Flying Monkeys don't like?
     
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  8. Collateral Damage

    Collateral Damage Well-Known Member

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    I don't see anywhere in your post a statement, or even a hint that it's your opinion. But hey, that's MY opinion. :)
     
  9. Noone

    Noone Well-Known Member

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    Unless you've sworn to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution; then one traitor is as treacherous as is gets.
    No, not yet. But, that's his goal.
    Or a blithering idiot. You folks really need to decide if President Biden mentally incompetent or an evil genius. In truth he's an old man ELECTED President that is doing his best, and succeeding, to do the job he swore to do.

    While you're denigrating him with so many ACCUSATIONs, it would help if you came up with some real FACTS.
    The "parctical difference" is TRAITOR tRump want's to destroy the Constitution, President Biden want's to preserve it.
    Which get's to the crux of what TRAITOR tRump and his MAGrate's are up to. Revolution to install an Autocrat that would call himself President for life ending Government BY the PEOPLE in the same stroke.
    Who's they? Rupert Murdock, the Koch's, the Mercer's? Yes, the want to divide us and put their puppet, TRAITOR tRump, in power so the can complete the rape of America.
     
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    I think your "hint" would be the name of the forum it's posted in. -duh
     
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    :above: Case in point :above:
     
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    Exactly! Your post was nothing less than a thinly disquised case to make the point that TRAITOR tRump's insurrection against OUR Constitution was really only a (legitimate) revolution. Which far to many American's believe.
     
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    Boy, you'll be surprised when Trump's Supreme Court breaks the back of your beloved Deep State.
     
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    So, to be clear here, you wouldn't use the word woman to describe Rachel? And you would also suggest that a transgender is not a woman, right?
     
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    Hotdogr Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I never said anything of the sort. I have no allegiance with Trump, or anyone else.

    A large number of Americans think Jan 6th was a revolution... just as many, like you, think it was a coup. As long as the ruling elite and their propagandists can maintain that divide, their status-quo gravy-train is protected. The point of my post was that people like YOU (and the OP) are at the core of the problem of division, along with your mirror-image counterparts on the right, all working hand-in-hand with the propagandists you subscribe to. Until you all realize that, nothing will change, because it can't.
     
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  16. Noone

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    You did.
    There are NO two ways about it; 1/6/2021 was an attempt to overthrow and election to unlawfully retain power and, consequently, overthrow OUR Government BY the PEOPLE.
     
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    You want to talk about "blindly following a leader" while we are in a global recession, the border is a mess, the economy is a mess, the entire country is more divided than it's every been, over half the world wants nothing to do with our dollar anymore and we are inching closer to WW3 with every passing day?

    All that is either directly or indirectly caused from nominated Biden and his **** policies and administration. And you have the ****ing nerve to talk about where Trump would have taken us? You think things are good right now?!

    What a ******n joke. We are currently living out your administration's "utopia" and it sucks.
     
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    Except ... it's not. Right now we are in a recovery form a global pandemic which was predicted, globally, to be much worse that it has been and, The United States is faring much better than most other nations are. Not only that it's is also predicted that The United States is in a much better position than ANY other Nation to profit and prosper in the coming years because of our demographics and the coming de-globalization. Which, we are beginning to see the initial results of in places like ... China. 8)
     
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  19. ToughTalk

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    Except...it is. It absolutely is. Your comparing us to many other nations negates to acknowledge that literally every western nation right now is slipping into recession in whole or in part due to a war that electing Biden incentivised.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/recession-coming-most-developed-nations-123732335.html

    That war doesn't happen under Trump. Because Trump's administration and policy towards Putin was less threatening and more importantly was not an extension of Obama's administration which, like it or not, he saw as meddling in with Ukraine's politics.

    You are simply simping for a failure.

    You can't bullshit me and tell me the economy is great. You can't bullshit and tell me that the border is secure. You certainly can't bullshit and tell me that we are socially more unified right now. You basically can't bullshit me about anything. Because reality is a kick in your teeth.
     
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    nope.
    From our founding documents:
    • "...whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government"
    • "... when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
    A large number of Americans think, rightly or wrongly, that Jan 6th was a revolution... just as many, like you, think it was a coup. BOTH stances are PROPAGANDA. None of the RIGHTS to "abolish" and "throw off" above can possibly happen until The People agree one way or another.

    As long as the ruling elite and their propagandists can maintain that divide, their status-quo gravy-train is protected. The point of my post was that people like YOU (and the OP) are at the core of the problem of division, along with your mirror-image counterparts on the right, all working hand-in-hand with the propagandists you subscribe to. Until you all realize that, nothing will change, because it can't.
     
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    No, it's not.
     
  22. ToughTalk

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    Ya...you keep covering your ears and shutting your eyes fella. Objective reality says otherwise.

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    Yep!

    I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States, as I have sworn, until my last breath. I view justifications for rebellion, like yours above as thinly veiled threats to OUR Constitution.

    I see you complaining frequently about OUR Government, but I rarely see calling for the end of the divisiveness you so readily point out. You promote "glittering generalities" (who's using propaganda) to back up your claims but few FACTS. Like for instance, who you believe to be the "ruling elite", that is attempting to install TRAITOR tRump, the Great Divider, as permanent dictator, as I have.
     
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    As will I. How can throwing off a despotic governance possibly be a threat to the Constitution, when the RIGHT... the DUTY to do so is enshrined in our founding documents? This is the danger of propagandizing good versus evil in a partisan way. I don't justify or condone what happened on 1/6. No one should. I just don't raise it to the level of anything beyond a riot, because to do so is dishonest.
    The divisiveness cannot end as long as the propagandists maintain it and The People subscribe. The "ruling elite" are the corrupt entrenched career politicians, enriching themselves and their families on their comfy status-quo gravy-train, and the miles-deep root structure of unelected bureaucrats below them that cement them permanently in place. This is not a partisan issue. Trump is a symptom, he's not the problem.
     
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    IF, "1/6" was limited to the attack on OUR Capitol. But the violent attack was only one aspect of the attempt to overturn the election, TRAITOR tRump's attempt to illegally retain power and, install himself as an autocratic president for life by using the full force of the Presidency.
    The propagandists? The propagandists are the MAGrates the propagate TRAITOR tRump's lies that the election was stolen, calls were perfect, he did nothing wrong ...
    You're wrong the people you've listed are pawn's bought and paid for BY the "ruling elite". Most "bureaucrats" are honest hard working patriots, trying to do their job in and for a government that has been under attack by the "ruling elite" for generations. TRAITOR tRump fired many good competent "bureaucrats" because they wouldn't pledge fealty to him over country.
    TRAITOR tRump and his MAGrates do their best to keep divisive partisanship a road block to keep AmeriCANs from joining together to solve America's issues. TRAITOR tRump AbsaByGodLutely IS the most clear and dangerous problem These United States has EVER faced.
     
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