The disorienting, and dangerous, appropriation of language.

Uhh ya. See this is why progressives shouldn't be in charge of anything. You haven't a ****ing clue regarding foreign politics. And it's biting us in the ass now.

Putin and Trump had a much better standing relationship where Putin didn't feel threatened by Trump meddling in Ukraine. What's Putin's relationship with Biden?
Putin had 50 years of experience in predicting Biden's reaction to his invading Ukraine. He only had 4 under Trump. And yes, that matters. If you can't predict without a reasonable certainty, the reaction of the leader of the world's strongest military...you don't do the thing. He was predicting only sanctions. Like how Obama handled Georgia.
Which brings me to my next point; Biden is seen as an extension of the Obama administration which Putin absolutely felt was meddling in Ukraine. Because hello? He was the VP? His Son has direct ties in Ukrainian affairs. And this was caught under the Obama/Biden administration.

Putin has also said he likes the Republican party, but dislikes the Democratic party. Probably because your dipshit leaders won't stop meddling and demanding everyone else kowtow to your dipshit moral values. He's not the only world leader who's made reference to your foreign dictatorship like meddling.

"American Democrats are far more ideologically led than the Republicans. And the Democrats always like to convince you and sometimes force you how to live you know? And I don't like it you know? We have our own culture, the culture defines how we live don't interfere please don't educate us don't say what is good what is bad what is liberty or we don't like that... it's not your job not the job of the Americans and any other Nation. It's the Hungarian job that's that's so simple"

Beautifully said.

Ya. Putin doesn't go into Ukraine if Trump were in office. Sorry. That's just a pill you are going to have to swallow. So I am going to comfortably lay blame to alllll the negative side effects of this war and lay blame to DNC meddling. Plain and simple.

The DNC's foreign policy is what the old Republican foreign policy was. It's like the two parties swapped. We need to stop DICTATING how other countries wish to govern...and just do what China does. Trade and prosper.

 

Did Biden prevent Putin from invading?

 

I can see why you posted that given the enormous consequences to the nation's politics.

 

Two things. 1. Your use of Orban, a dogmatic authoritarian, posing as a credible critic of Dem politics is laughable on its face. 2. Pretending you know Trump would have stopped Putin from invading Ukraine is nothing more than wistful speculation and as such laughable on its face.

 

Far-Right House GOPers Toss Targeting Trump Prosecutors Into Shutdown Threat Mix

House Freedom Caucus member Andrew Clyde (R-GA) said Monday he is planning to introduce two amendments to eliminate federal funding for the three prosecutors who indicted Donald Trump — Department of Justice Special Counsel Jack Smith, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis and Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg.

“Due to my serious concerns about these witch hunt indictments against President Trump, I intend to offer two amendments to prohibit any federal funds from being used in federal or state courts to prosecute major presidential candidates prior to the 2024 election,” Clyde said in a statement.
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/...ng-trump-prosecutors-into-shutdown-threat-mix

Anyone, on either side of the aisle, who has read the indictments against Trump is entitled to an opinion about his guilt or innocence but no one who mimics Trump by calling them "witch hunts" can be taken seriously. Doing so is not a reflection of reality. As Orwell said......... "But if thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought."

 

Orban is a world leader of which is detailing the truth regarding foreign politics between the two party's.

Trump by virtue of being Trump alone is exactly why nothing happened during his 4 years in office and why Putin started to move mass troops to Ukraine's border merely 2 months after Biden was sworn in office.

The fact that you're trying to scoff at all the reasons I just stated tells me that you really don't know foreign politics.

Actually your opinion regarding the current situation of things as being "ok" is also laughable and what many would call willful ignorance. Because the idea that "fat, arrogant, egotistical, mean orange man" just happened to be a better president than your Biden is eating away at your soul.

 

"Trump by virtue of being Trump alone is exactly why nothing happened during his 4 years in office"

Perhaps you'd like to translate for me. What does that mean? Putin didn't want to provoke a response by NATO nations (which has been lead by Biden) while Trump was trying to help Putin by weakening NATO?

 

What you're suggesting is Trump would have taken military action against Putin for invading Ukraine even as he criticizes Biden for helping them? Time to work on your logic.

 

I would have never started a thread based on a bumper sticker, but since we are here, I also saw a "Save the Planet" sticker on a single occupancy vehicle pulling into In n Out to get some drive thru. Since raising livestock for food produces more greenhouse gases than cars, it does not appear that enormous consequences is a factor when choosing stickers.

I enjoy boating and RV camping and I notice a lot of Trump flags and signs. It appears that those who enjoy the outdoors are more likely to support Trump. Do you know why that is?

 

Neither would I if the belief expressed on it wasn't shared by a substantial amount of the POT.

 

Wouldn't that mean that you don't believe your parties views on climate change?

 

Camping and other wholesome activities are actually White Supremicist

 

One of if not the most outrageous hijacking of a commonly understood concept is that of equating the illegal acts of Trump and his co-defendants with free speech.

 

thread winner.

 

yeah the carpetbagging twit was such a better choice

NOT

 

No.

 

Hatred of Hillary established by years of negative press from RWM no doubt prevents you from admitting she was the far more qualified candidate. But the point was more about how so many Repubs could have used colossally poor judgement in electing a clownish buffoon who entertained them while alluding to the size of his johnson.

 

Trying to figure out how you can think as you do. Asking myself, what would it take for me to think like that?
I can only assume that there is a never-ending **** blizzard where you live, and that is what you think the world is made of.

 

how was she more qualified?

1) everything she achieved was due to her husband.
2) she's a disgusting dishonest POS. Ask any Law enforcement agent who was tasked with white house security about her and they will tell you she is a sanctimonious elitist bitch.
3) I love the supreme court justices we got from the Trump administration. what would have hillary given us-marxist man hating gun banners?

 

Even if you believe that specious assertion the fact remains her policy bona fides and experience far exceeded those of Trump who's expertise centered on escaping accountability for groping women, ripping off contractors, and being a reality TV star. I would be remiss if I didn't mention he radically changed his positions on a number of issues in order to make himself acceptable to the base of the then GOP.

 

she flunked the bar
her "success" at the Rose Law firm was due to her representing people in front of regulatory committees who had been appointed by her husband
her senate seat was due to the popularity in NY of her husband

Trump sucked-Hilary sucked far worse and her politics are awful

 

Interesting. So I can eat meat, commute in a single occupancy vehicle and still care about the environment as long as I display a “save the planet” sticker?

 

and don't get me started on fishing hunting and trapping!!

 

Hey Al Gore can fly around the world in a private massive commercial sized jet in order to attend environmentalist-whack job meeting.

 

I already explained this to you.

Trump by nature of being Trump. Trump being abrasive, egotistical, bombastic aggressive/combative and not having 50 years of prior political experience for Putin to predict how the leader of the world's most powerful military would respond to Putin aggression on Ukraine.

That is absolutely part of it. Do you risk starting a direct war with the world's largest military or do you wait it out until someone more reasonable or predictable gets' voted into office?

That was absolutely part of Putin's thought process. If you think it wasn't you are being woefully ignorant.

This doesn't say anything about Trump having a better relationship with Putin. Or the fact that Biden is seen as an extension of the Obama administration and DNC policy regarding Ukraine which was seen as meddling and trying to install a pro western government.

I mean there are so many reasons as to what makes Biden inherently different and a worse choice for foreign relations than Trump. As we are experiencing right now. I would choose Merkle's fat ass laughing at Trump over Putin invading Ukraine 100 out of 100 times as the better choice for America, Ukraine and the world.

But you still live in la la land. Thinking that there is going to be a good outcome to this war. Thinking that things will be better if Putin dies or some ****. Thinking you can change or affect how other countries govern their populace.

You can't. Russia may lose its military might for a time, but it will build itself back up. Putin will die, and get replaced by someone as bad or worse. You are going to need to learn to work with shitty leaders and come to a common ground of understanding for trade relations.