The disorienting, and dangerous, appropriation of language.

The above is pure propaganda.

...AND those who propagate that Trump "...attempt[ed] to illegally retain power and, install himself as an autocratic president for life by using the full force of the Presidency." ...which is absurd.

He did. And he should have. He should have fired everyone that was within his authority to fire, and replaced them all with ordinary, but competent, citizens.

I'm not sure what a "MAGrates" is, but this is pure commercial grade propaganda, nonetheless.

It has been my observation over the decade I have been a member, that there are four basic types of posters here at PF:

1) Paid or amateur propagandists,
2) The happily and hopelessly propagandized,
3) Bots and trolls,
4) Truth seekers.​

Which are you?

 

There's a great example of a disorienting description of the economy. Q2 2023 GDP came in a trend growth of 2.4%. As of July unemployment is near record lows at 3.5%. Through the first half of 2023, the economy has added 1.67 million jobs, the 12th largest January to June total on record. The post COVID inflation rate of around 8% has been reduced to about 3% which is 1% above the Fed's target of 2%. If Trump were prez he'd shouting about his great economy at anyone who would listen.

 

So Hillary Clinton claiming that the 2016 election was a fraud and stolen was ok? She had every right to claim this as did Trumpt. That's the entire point of being in the U.S. ...you have the right to question EVERYTHING.

The only people who believe what you are saying is the hardcore liberal democrats and leftists. Everybody else kind of thinks it's a joke. Do you realize this?

 

Of course there were but none of those had anything to do with totalitarianism or Fascism. That was always just lying leftist bilge. Trump was always more inclined to lesson the power of government in peoples day to day lives. And that is one of the two reasons Democrats and there bureaucrat servitors are so dead set on destroying the man that they will cheerfully sacrifice their own credibility in that pursuit.

 

Strike that reverse it. fixed.

 

To you, and only because it threatens your MAGrate paradigm.

Well, that is what the indictments TRAITOR tRump faces in DC and Georgia are about. So ... we'll see ... won't we.

He gutted upper level management at the FBI throwing away invaluable experience and destroying patriots that served our Country.

Make America Grate, which has been TRATIOR tRump's goal all along. America is GREAT but that's a fact doesn't play well to TRAITOR tRump's supporters ... like you.

grate
verb
Definition of grate
1 as in to annoy; to disturb the peace of mind of (someone) especially by repeated disagreeable acts

An AmeriCAN PATRIOT! Proudly.

 

FCS, this has been discussed dozens of times. Consider the context of what she said and when she said it. She said "Trump knows he is an illegitimate prez." She said it 3 years after the election. After the Mueller report described Russia's "sweeping and systematic" interference in Trump's favor. This includes illegally hacking in to the DNC server which Trump encouraged. It includes voter roll purges. She never questioned the integrity of the vote count. Only the means by which it was achieved with Don only losing by 2.8M votes.
Did Trump have the right to question the election? Sure. Did he have the right to commit illegal acts to overturn it? No.

 

The difference was HRC did NOT attempt to illegally overturn the election. You may have the right to question "EVERYTHING", you don't have the right to overthrow OUR Government.

 

I'm so glad Q'anon shaman did not use his special powers to overthrow the government. That would have been oh so horrible.

 

Speaking of disoriented and dangerous, the driver of a Prius was swerving into my lane. I gave a quick, polite "beep" and she looked up from her cell phone and gave me the middle finger. I pulled to the right to give her more room and let her pass. I noticed a faded "Im With Hillary" bumper sticker

 

Looking at the phone while driving is very horrible and IMO it should be treated like DUIs (6 months loss of license and make it worse from there). There is just no excuse for it.

 

If trump were president there wouldn't have been a war in Ukraine and the supply chains would be full steam ahead...gas wouldn't be what it is right now, which means prices wouldn't have had to inflate to account for that increase in costs...

If trump were president.

But as we are all living, you opted to vote with your emotions and we are paying for it.

 

Why do you hate democracy?

 

Because any views that are not 100% in line with the left are considered to them "A threat to democracy", oh, and Fascism, oh, and just for the heck of it lets toss in a sprinkle of bigotry and phobia (any phobia works for the narrative)

 

You would think they learned that when they read 1984 and Animal Farm.

 

Trump ba'a'a'a'd!

 

Hell, I knew that back during Obama's rise from "street organizer" to President. IF you tell a grand enough lie much of the public will buy it. And you guys are still buying it. He was supposed to be the "first post racial President" and yet racism and racial antagonism today is more like the early sixties. Our President is treated more like the idiot uncle than the "leader of the free world". Our once-security position as the anchor of the word economy is under severe attack led by some of our strongest enemies.
But Barry was the one "we've been waiting for", right?

 

The Leftists are mad because they couldn't make Obama "His Excellency President for Life, Field Marshal, VC, DSO, MC, CBE, Lord of all the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Sea."

 

Maybe this isn't your country.

 

You know what you should do, go volunteer at a Trump for President group in your town and find out why these people feel as if they do. You just might learn a few things [or at least it will give you a little balance].

 

The difference is that the entire system is horribly corrupt. This isn't a left v. right issue. It's just that corruption is tolerable on the Democrat side because it furthers Democrat control.

 

That just isn't true.
"on the whole, if we’re focusing on those forms of corruption, the U.S. is much less corrupt than it used to be, and on the whole less corrupt than many other countries."
"We’re by no means the world leader in clean government. But the situation is not nearly as bad as it used to be, and not nearly as bad as it is elsewhere in the world."
https://hls.harvard.edu/today/a-history-of-corruption-in-the-united-states/

It's become a "left v. right issue" since TRAITOR tRump started attacking every level of government he could in an attempt to hide his crimes.

That's not true either. But since this is the "Political Opinions & Beliefs" board you're welcome to your OPINION.

 

Patriotism use to be a beautiful concept I could get behind. Today those that speak of it tend to have authoritarian leanings as opposed to democratic values.

 

Trump would have prevented Putin from invading?

 

Why do you ask inane questions?