Israel comes under heavy rocket fire from Gaza, suspected terror infiltration

Really, I was unaware that South Africa was ever a nuclear armed power.

 

what exactly is the major difference between South Africa under white rule to Israel under white rule?

 

They're most likely Israelis with fake duel citizenship. Aka spies

 

On that issue, I like the cut of your jib.

 

Congratulations, you've learned something today.

 

Best option at this point:

1. Tightly contain Gaza, no Egypt opening.

2. Over the next few months act like we are building up for a deployment of our troops, and build tent cities I saw during my deployments, but these are to house and fees Gazans that we slowly funnel civilians over months to the southeast somewhere, along one safe corridor entry point. I believe it may be possible, in say 5 months, to build tent cities that can house 1M+.

3. After Gaza becomes more of a ghost town several months later, the IDF destroys the fighters who remain, and completely disarm the peninsula.

Now, it will be difficult because Israel's enemies will seek to disrupt the humanitarian effort.

Some of Hamas will use the humanitarian corridor to escape. Civilians will need to enter the camps empty-handed EXCEPT:

It is very important to allow Palestinians to carry documentation proving who they are and exactly where they live. A detailed process must be set up to attach an address to every refugee that lacks documentation.

I'm sure plenty can respond as to why this impossible, I'm just a nobody throwing out desperate suggestions to avoid war.

 

Israel said they were going to bomb hospitals and then they bombed hospitals. And now you're mindlessly posting Israel's agitprop for I don't know what reason.

Israel warns hospital in northern Gaza to evacuate by 6 a.m. -- rights group | The Times of Israel

 

Already been done. Didn't work too well.

Ok, you want to U.S. to take a very active role in Israels ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians.

Genocide those who refuse to comply with ethnic cleansing. Will you be wanting to set up some gas chambers for that?

That's some hardcore gas-lighting agitprop.

Israel is the one and the only one who disrupts humanitarian efforts.

So now you want to help Israel destroy all documentation and evidence the Palestinians have of being ethnically cleansed from Israel.

That's some serious demonic hard-core satanic stuff you suggested there.

 

Neither of us is in a position to competently determine what is "highly likely" in this case.

A failed launch might have set off additional stored munitions, or they might have had more powerful weapons that what you're aware of. Or it could be something else. Regardless, I am not going to take Hamas's word for it.

 

Barak is one of the most highly decorated soldiers in Israel's history.


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Yeah, hopefully we can all learn something about each other and avert war.

How preposterous, first of all I'm wanting the UN to handle the camps, or some sort of coalition. Second, the documentation is to assist in their return to Gaza. I said it because if we want people to evacuate to safety, it garners trust to let them carry their documentation, and to have a process that's serious about getting them back in their homes.

And yeah, Hamas is preventing people from fleeing. There's a difference between an airstrike impact, and the impact location of a roadside bomb. I guess we will see who attacks humanitarian efforts if we see this effort to provide shelter to refugees materialize. I have a feeling Hamas and friends will feel compelled to attack humanitarian efforts, and we want them to be in that position, although it will be tragic to the humanitarians who bravely give their life in the effort.

 

Israel just JDAMed a hospital and you think Hamas is the one going to hinder humanitarian efforts.

Nutz.

 

I don't believe we have the information required to determine that. Hamas's word, like some anti-Loyalists who killed women and children as their method to resist the Crown, or like some American generals who killed native women and children during the American Indian wars, is not to be trusted on matters of civilian casualties. They have more incentive to blame Israel for every civilian death than incentive to do anything else.

I keep hearing: "The Palestinians live in an open air prison, this kind of violence toward Israelis is to be expected, and even applauded!"

Really? Because I can imagine being imprisoned in a concentration camp in WW2, under the most brutal oppression. Even in my lowest point of despair, I would try to maintain my humanity. If the concentration camp guard's child got too close to the camp fence, I would never feel justified in grabbing the kid and murdering them as "resistance", and I don't believe in cheering anyone who would. Apparently many of my fellow citizens, including at Harvard, think that such an act should be considered "resistance".

 

That hospital thing is, of course, disputed.

 

'Scoop: White House has discussed U.S. military response if Hezbollah attacks Israel'

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'The White House has been discussing the possibility of using military force if Hezbollah joins the war in Gaza and attacks Israel with its huge arsenal of rockets, three U.S. officials and one Israeli official with knowledge of the situation tell Axios.

Why it matters: Lebanon-based Hezbollah joining the war would dramatically escalate the Middle East's worst conflict in decades — raising the likelihood of mass civilian casualties in Israel and Lebanon and possibly drawing in the U.S.

• The Israeli military — now focused mostly on Gaza — would have a significantly more difficult time fighting on two fronts simultaneously while missiles rain down on its bases and Israel's population centers.

State of play: Since the Gaza war began Oct. 7, tensions between Israel and Hezbollah have been increasing, with daily skirmishes between the parties along the Israel-Lebanon border.

• Iran-backed Hezbollah has fired rockets and anti-tank missiles at Israeli outposts and forces on the border in recent days, while Israeli airstrikes have hit Hezbollah positions. Several Hezbollah operatives and several IDF soldiers have been killed'

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https://www.axios.com/2023/10/17/israel-news-us-military-hezbollah-attacks

 

IDF confirms visual and audio ‘proof’ will be released following Gaza hospital attack

 

Many of the groups and countries that would be involved in a destabilization of Israel's defense have repeatedly and openly called for my death. It's of great interest to me if they are in any position to acquire nuclear weapons.

 

Only if someone tries and stops us from annihilating Hamas.

 

That's it !

 

Seemingly a fake account It has been deleted.

A real witness would have known that Islamic Jihad, not Hamas, is responsible for the misfired rockets.

 

Same ISIS, different names.

 

Have I got this right; you feel SA and Palestine is similar but that hamas and its allies are a bigger threat to western domination in Africa and Arabia than the Zulu were from both a military and political perspective?

 

IDF claim footage proves Gaza hospital explosion caused by 'misfired terror rocket'

 

Yeah, sure it was/sarcasm.

The same hospital's cancer unit was already struck by Israel on October 14.

In a distressing incident on the 14th of October, 2023, Ahli Arab Hospital’s Diagnostic Cancer Treatment Center in Gaza City was struck by Israeli rocket fire. The ensuing strike wrought substantial devastation upon the two uppermost floors of the facility, specifically impacting the Ultrasound and Mammography wards. Tragically, this incident resulted in injuries to four dedicated hospital staff members, who are currently under medical care to address their wounds.

https://afedj.org/ahli-hospital-struck-by-rocket-fire/

This latest attack is suspected to have been from a JDAM munition due to the distinct high-pitched whine made as it came in.



Videos surfaced on social media, depicting flames engulfing the corridors of the al-Ahli hospital. A few videos also captured the moment a munition struck the hospital, igniting a giant fireball.

In one of the videos, labeled as the first clear footage from the al Ahli tragedy in Gaza, a distinct sound of a munition was audible, and the impact of the munition striking the hospital could be seen.

Following an initial analysis of the footage, numerous experts, among them Mike Mihajlovic, a specialist in defense technologies and a former Canadian Armed Forces officer, noted that “Listening several times to the different noises, and comparing with the one that shows JADAM hit (next post) there is a pattern: background constant level noise and the high pitch sound of the bomb is characteristic.”

https://www.eurasiantimes.com/jdam-bomb-or-hamas-rocket-who-was-behind-the-attack-on-gazas/?amp

Israel is going out of its way to blame Hamas, even providing a recorded conversation. Funny that they should have recorded that convo, but missed entirely the preparations for the initial attack.

 

Protests spreading worldwide: