Do you understand why people vote for Donald Trump?

I don't follow RW fake news, I don't know what you're talking about on the laptop.
Other than it's been talked about for 5 yrs.

Even under trumps DoJ. No charges were brought.

 

1) You never heard of some 50 odd intelligence agents signing off that the Biden laptop was disinformation?
2) Any who reported as much were RW hacks.

Is that pretty much your take?

 

So, if you report on this fake letter signed by a bunch of left and RW hacks, then it's RW fake news? Who's the naive one here? The letter was fake, but the laptop was very real. Your reply is almost laugh out loud funny.

 

That's what I posted.


trump D O J, never brought charges either.

 

Until the letter is posted, all there is is fake news.

 

I was just surprised you seem to be so proud of your ignorance.

Is Politico left enough for you?

Hunter Biden story is Russian disinfo, dozens of former ...

https://www.politico.com › news › 2020/10/19 › hunt...

Officials Who Cast Doubt on Hunter Biden Laptop Face ...

How about the NYT?

The New York Times

https://www.nytimes.com › U.S. › Politics

May 16, 2023 — Dozens of former intelligence officials signed a letter discounting the laptop's contents.

 

Lol.
Your link didn't go to the story.

 

Because Hitler isn't running.

 

People with vote for Trump because no matter how bad Trump is, the alternative is worse. And unfortunately that's the reality America is in.

Americans will even find Hitler is a better alternative to Biden.

 

When James R. Clapper Jr., the former director of national intelligence, testifies on Wednesday behind closed doors on Capitol Hill, he will be the sixth former intelligence official to be hauled before Congress as part of what has become an intense focus of House Republicans: a public letter sent during the height of the 2020 presidential campaign.

Republicans have seized on the document, signed by 51 former intelligence officials whom the G.O.P. has taken to calling the “spies who lie,” as a prime piece of evidence for their claims that officials inside the federal government have tried to smear and damage conservatives. They argue that the missive was written at the behest of President Biden’s allies to distract from salacious material found on the abandoned laptop of his son Hunter Biden, and that it ultimately helped the elder Mr. Biden defeat former President Donald J. Trump.

In the letter, reported at the time by Politico, former intelligence officials holding impressive national security credentials wrote that they believed that the contents of the laptop — full of evidence of drug use, prostitution and foreign business deals — could be part of a Russian campaign aimed at influencing the election, though they emphasized that they had no knowledge that was true.

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Three days later, Mr. Biden cited the letter during a presidential debate to rebut Mr. Trump’s criticisms, asserting that “there are 50 former national intelligence folks who said that what he’s accusing me of is a Russian plan.”

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James R. Clapper Jr. and Sally Q. Yates testifying before Senate Judiciary subcommittee. They are sitting at a table with name cards in front of them and bottles of water.
James R. Clapper Jr. will be the sixth former intelligence official to testify in front of Congress as part of Republicans’ focus on the letter.Credit...Stephen Crowley/The New York Times
Three years later, no concrete evidence has emerged to confirm the assertion that the laptop contained Russian disinformation, and portions of its contents have been verified as authentic.

What Congress Can’t Get Done Amid the Speaker Fight
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A legislative standstill. Republican disunity in the House over who will be the next speaker has left the chamber hobbled at a time of international and domestic crises. Here is a look at the big tasks Congress faces as G.O.P. infighting continues:

An aid package for Israel. There is a broad bipartisan consensus on the need to rush additional military support to Israel for its war against Hamas. But the speakership vacuum means there is no certainty about how soon any aid could be approved and delivered.

More assistance for Ukraine. A White House request for $24 billion in additional funding for Ukraine’s war against Russia is on hold during the speaker fight. Republican opposition to continued aid for Kyiv, once confined to the far right, has been growing recently.

Avoiding a government shutdown. Congress, which is operating under a temporary extension of last year’s spending bills, has until Nov. 17 to fund the government. The stopgap measure cost Kevin McCarthy his speakership; it is not clear how his successor might avoid a similar fate.

Republicans now say they have uncovered evidence that the letter was part of a Biden campaign operation. According to closed-door testimony and emails, Biden campaign officials, including Antony J. Blinken, now the secretary of state, played a role in the creation of the letter. They also said a C.I.A. employee “may have” been involved in soliciting at least one signature for it.

“The public statement by 51 former intelligence officials was a political operation to help elect Vice President Biden in the 2020 presidential election,” an interim report released last week by the Republican-led House Judiciary and Intelligence Committees concluded. The report cited an email that said the letter was intended to create a “talking po

The report concluded: “The American people deserve to know that Hunter Biden’s laptop and emails were real. They always were real. The allegations that they were the product of Russian disinformation were false.”

The investigation into the signers of the letter comes as Republicans are digging into multiple aspects of the Hunter Biden story: Why social media companies suppressed it; whether his father was involved in any of his business deals; and whether anyone in government interfered with any inquiries into the younger Mr. Biden, who is currently under federal investigation.

As Justice Department officials weigh the matter, the investigator overseeing the Internal Revenue Service’s portion of the case has also come forward with allegations of political favoritism in the inquiry. On Monday, a lawyer for that investigator sent a short letter to Congress that said the investigator and the rest of his team were being removed from the inquiry, which is reaching its end as officials weigh whether to pursue charges. A spokesman for the president said he was committed to the Justice Department’s independence “free from any political interference by the White House.”

Democrats argue that the Republicans are wasting time and resources investigating the 51 former intelligence officials, who were private citizens at the time of the letter and wanted Mr. Biden to be victorious in the campaign. The former intelligence officials stress that their letter stated that they had no evidence of a Russian disinformation campaign, and that they were merely stating an opinion.

Several said they did not regret their actions.

“The Congress is wasting its time and our money by investigating the First Amendment rights of private citizens,” Mark Zaid, a lawyer who represents seven signers of the letter, said in an interview.

Democrats also argue that the letter must be understood in its proper context. Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer, Rudolph W. Giuliani — whose credibility had become shaky — had been shopping around the contents of the laptop to different news media outlets, not long after a top Trump intelligence official warned that Russia was seeking to “primarily denigrate former Vice President Biden” and that “some Kremlin-linked actors are also seeking to boost President Trump’s candidacy.”

The Democrats also note that Facebook and Twitter decided to censor or limit the sharing of a New York Post article about the laptop’s contents five days before the letter’s publication in Politico.

In a statement submitted to Congress on behalf of Michael J. Morell, the former deputy director of the C.I.A., Mr. Morell said he “organized and helped draft” the statement “because of his honest and well-founded belief that Russia was involved in some way in the emergence of the Hunter Biden emails for the purpose of interfering in the 2020 presidential election.”

“The public statement was careful not to claim that the New York Post story was disinformation or that the information it reported was untrue, and Mr. Morell was careful to confirm his suspicions with public source information and the views of multiple experts in the field,” the statement said.

But Republicans are hoping to escalate the inquiry and have scheduled at least two more transcribed interviews. Representative Jim Jordan, Republican of Ohio and the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, also suggested in an interview that he would be investigating whether any of the signers had retained their security clearances and whether Congress could pass legislation to revoke them.

“The 51 people who signed that now-famous letter, my guess is they probably all had their security clearances?” he said. “Does that make sense?”

OI'm on a phone so the link didn't work as it should. As with other forums, it's good to see a lack intellectual curiosity won't trouble you to Google the text. When I am back on my laptop I'll get you the link.

 

That was the NYT story, by the way....

 

Typical.

When I hold a belief that is challenged, I seek to learn more about the dissenting viewpoint. The very last thing I would do is consider the dissenter's viewpoint invalid simply because his link doesn't work.

Truth seekers are passionate about seeking truth. It's easy to make a judgement about who is not interested in truth here, when they will not be bothered to seek it.

 

Don't lump all Americans in with the MAGA cult.

 

The posters link worked.

But none of them went to the story the link was suppose to be about.
A truth seeker would have clicked on the links to see what the poster was posting about and found it also to not be related to the claim.

But typically, those that don't just throw out bs about others.
Hell, you could even try to post a link to help the poor person out that can't find the correct links.

 

Just try to do this correctly when you have better access.
That is just a mess.

 

2 things, I told you'd I would post when I got to my computer, so I really don't need your admonition to do so.

Secondly, it isn't that hard to grab some text from the entire NYT piece and find it if you are even curious, which you clearly are not... the paragraphs were just so messy, I guess.
So wait....or demand I post the link, again...your choice.

 

I'm not into your identity politics, I'm just basing people on IQ.

 

I want to see your claim and exactly what those 50 or so people did or did not sign.

I am guessing since its so hard to come up with something, it's mostly RW talking points.

 

I see, you're into IQ politics.
And I can assure you, you are wrong. Most will NOT vote for trump no matter who the alternative is.

So, you are also playing ID politics. IN a country you know very little about.

 

I know more about America than you think.

It's you guys that need to get passports to see what's beyond your coastline.

 

It is very simple - today we are aware of many things which happens far away and we are trying to make sense of it - in short, me have to decide to whom to believe.
If you believe in God - if a bad thing happens to you or to your family - it is the work of Satan.
If you believe Trump is the best American president - it is obvious the 2020 election were stolen from Trump, by Satan or Democrats.

 

Did I not tell you that I would provide you a link, on more than one occasion, over the last few hours? Your impatience, and wilful ignorance, is not my concern.

nytimes.com/2023/05/16/us/politics/republicans-hunter-biden-laptop.html

 

Yet, you're here and I am not interested in what your voters do.

 

Now I got to pay to view the link?

It's not wilful ignorance I have. It's distrust of being provided meaningful information.

After all, you failed on a so called deep state.

 

No Gilligan, I actually posted the article previously and you whined I didn't provide the link...now I spoon feed you the link and you complain you don't have access to the article.

Oy vey.....