Armed homeowner who defended family in driveway shoot-out says he's been stripped of gun permit

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  1. Sleep Monster

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    I would likely have done the same. That was an intense event in anyone's life.
     
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    what's that got to do with this issue-there is no evidence the homeowner threatened the cops or he would have been arrested
     
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    As we see in this thread liberals always seem very concerned about criminals being shot duriing a robbery or home invasion. They never seem concerned about the victims in crimes such as described in the link below.

    Note that one of the perps in this home invasion had previously been arrested 30 times. And liberals want to know why people need a gun?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheshire_home_invasion_murders
     
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    There ware over 18000 arrests in several states during the BLM protests. Some were very serious, most were minors.
     
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    Even though blacks are far more violent and aggressive than whites, in sheer numbers LEO's kill twice as many whites as blacks.
     
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    LOL
     
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    And yet so many were let go without charges. Bailed out by dems.
     
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    Yet so many were let go without charges. And despite the consistent violence and racism from those folk...dems never gave up their support
     
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    Masculinity is primarily a trait in men, but not unique to men.
     
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    Black men get treated the same as white men when cooperating. They just don't act the same towards police on average which creates the inequality of outcome.
     
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    Most cops have a far higher tolerance to attitude than your average person. It comes with the job.
     
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    some cops retaliate against it, time to take a knee?
     
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    good cops do, bad cops have a very fragile ego
     
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    Which is why I said most
     
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    It was a legit question. If they took his permit for yelling at them, then either he committed a crime, or they did ...or one doesn't need to commit a crime to have their civil rights violated in CA.

    Actually its prolly the third thing. It is CA after all.
     
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    It happened in California.
     
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    It is embodied in the law yes in all states and yes to all people "man" is in the generic. It is very far from reasonable to assume everyone becomes unreasonable when faced with a threat....speak for yourself.
     
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    That's not what gets blacks shot. They like anyone else gets shot when they do not follow the lawful orders of the police and resist arrest and give them cause to believe they are going for a weapon to use against them.

    To get back on topic, do we citizens have a right to get upset with the police if we believe they are not doing their duty and their not doing so could endanger them is someway including legally? Do we have a right to voice that? Can we even raise our voices to the police. It is notable the body cam of the police visit has not been release to back this claim by the chief that this guy yelled or anything.
     
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    Your right, but there is a catch. California, and the city of LA, can claim sovereign immunity. In other words, an individual has to get the state's permission to sue them.
     
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    The case was already reviewed. There were multiple camera angles showing the event. The police had access to all of them, and it is cut and dried that they shoot was legal. So, why did the officers show back up to harass the family. I am sure that LA's Soro's backed DA sent the officers back to the family's home to get a confession out of him. Damn the videos showing that the man did nothing wrong. Force him to confess to breaking the law. I would have yelled to the cops also.

    The stripping of the man's Concealed Carry Permit was nothing but a petty reaction to being yelled at. Victims have no rights under LA's enforcement.
     
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    What's the difference?

    Can't have people defending themselves. Other people might realize how incompetent Democrats are at their jobs.

    Wouldn't want one of these innocent criminal home invaders to get hurt, after all.

    They were probably just hungry and looking to feed their families and stuff.
     
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    I don't think individuals can avoid that-remember the Rodney King case. It can be both a civil and criminal action but you may well be correct as to the city. Usually you have to file an administrative action to get a right to sue in court-that is how it works in the federal system. I won a ton of cases on 12b6 (failure to state a recognizable claim) motions when people sued governmental agencies and didn't timely file an administrative action
     
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    They're mad because they are incapable and unwilling to defend themselves. Makes them upset when they see people who can.
     
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    You are incorrect. The "may issue" policy violates ones rights, so it was changed to "Shall issue". Super liberal counties like Los Angeles refuses to issue CCWs to ordinary people, so only cops, judges, and criminals carried guns here.

    https://calmatters.org/politics/2023/03/california-concealed-carry-permits/
     
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    agree, and I was giving an answer to the question, some cops have fragile egos and retaliate
     

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