Trump hates MSNBC

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  1. Joe knows

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    According to testimony The FBI was in possession of the laptop on dec 2019. The first debate of Biden and trump was sept 2020. It’s 100% true they misled the American public to alter an election and I just started an article about it.
     
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    well in 2019 all these points still apply

    • In 2019 when the laptop was found , Joe Biden was a privet citizen running for WH.
    • Joe Biden in 2019 didn’t have any power/ authority to tell FBI how to investigate anything.
    • Biden campaign telling twitter not to post Hunter laptop is not illegal or abusing power ( Biden didn’t have any power in 2019) , this is classic political strategy to manipulate media.
    • FBI director Chris Wray is Life long republican and appointed by Trump.
    • Bill Burr was head of DOJ in 2019. Bull Burr is life long Republican and appointed by Trump.
    • Trump was POTUS in 2019 and DOJ reported to him
     
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    No it isn't. You want us to believe Trump's FBI misled the American public to alter an election (irony alert)? That's nothing more than another conspiracy theory.
     
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    Not commenting on an ongoing investigation is basic policy, not "misleading the American public to alter an election."
     
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    If only you had actually done some research,...... Do you feel embarrassed at all?
    https://www.fcc.gov/media/engineering/cable-television

    The Federal Communications Commission first established rules in 1965 for cable systems which received signals by microwave antennas. In 1966, the Commission established rules for all cable systems (whether or not served by microwave). The Supreme Court affirmed the Commission's jurisdiction over cable in United States v. Southwestern Cable Co., 392 U.S. 157 (1968). The Court ruled that "the Commission has reasonably concluded that regulatory authority over CATV is imperative if it is to perform with appropriate effectiveness certain of its responsibilities." The Court found the Commission needed authority over cable systems to assure the preservation of local broa

    How do you not know these things?
     
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    Doesn’t matter if he was a private citizen. He was running for presidency which gives him access to classified information. Also according to twitter files that exposed the intelligence communities efforts to cover up the laptop, also showed that the Biden camp was requesting information taken down siting a Russian disinformation campaign. The Biden camp was in fact in contact with the intelligence community as all presidential campaigns are.

    that aside. Let’s take bidens name out of it. That still doesn’t disprove the fact that there was an active attempt to distort information to the public and hide Bidens sons laptop and emails. While both the intelligence community and Biden claimed it was Russian misinformation campaign designed to help trump, while in fact it was an American disinformation campaign designed to help Biden.
     
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    So, what you're saying is that every leak, every democrat who pontificated on an "ongoing investigation" violated that policy vis a vis trump. Right?
     
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    I believe the reference was to the FBI not commenting on Crossfire Hurricane. Something an agent looking to derail Trump's candidacy could have done by leaking the existence of the investigation to the media during the campaign. An agent like hmmmmmmm, let's see, Peter Strzok. The guy you folks accused of bias, even though the IG found none that affected the investigation's findings. If his intent was to work against Trump why didn't he sabotage the campaign?

    How would a Dem know to comment on an "ongoing investigation" if the FBI was keeping it secret? And why do you think the prohibition on comments would apply to members of Congress? It's for members of the DoJ.
     
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    The intelligence community according to testimony and twitter files did comment to twitter that the laptop did exist but was cut off by someone else refusing any further information. Nor did the FBI ever correct the record and state that it was not russian disinformation. When in fact even by the CNN article I shared used the FBI as part of their evidence that it is russian disinformation.
     
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    Wait . . . you are seriously saying there was NO Russian disinformation about the laptop story? Seriously? Bwahahaha! And, dude, you didn't actually address what I said. Try again.
     
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    So, when Adam Schiff, for example, made his comments during the Trump investigations, etc and used info from the FBI, for example, he was doing what? If not violating the "we don't comment on ongoing investigations".... And just to be clear here, are you trying to exonerate Peter Strzok's political bias? Really?
     
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    Democrat? I'm talking about the people who actually work in the agencies, not random politicians. What the hell are you even talking about?
     
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    Link please.
     
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    I did address exactly what you said and you just didn’t like the answer. There was no Russian disinformation just democrat disinformation. You all talk about democracy but when it’s attacked on your side you all don’t care at all.
     
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    So people should vote differently because the state of their residence? The logic of that escapes me. No wonder the electorate is as incompetent as it is.
     
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    Also, @popscott , you need to do more homework. Those corporations? Looks like they were corporations to get the Bidens paid for speaking engagements . . . which is completely legal . . . I've done it myself.
     
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    Care to share a source that demonstrates that the Hunter Laptop was "russian disinformation"? So, let me see if I have your story straight then. When MSNBC said that the laptop was "russian disinformation" you're confirming that MSNBC was spreading russian disinformation in support of Biden, right?
     
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    Really, do you have to ask??!!! :)!
     
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    Try reading. One. Word. At. A. Time. I'm not saying that the laptop was disinformation. I'm saying STORIES about the laptop included a lot of disinformation. Hell, even the guy who handed the laptop over said that the stories he was seeing didn't match up with what he had witnessed himself.
     
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    Off course it matters if Biden was privet citizen or not.

    • As a privet citizen Biden didn’t have any authority to tell FBI, CIA, NSA , DOJ to do anything.
    • If Biden as Privat citizen who could control FBI , DOJ, CIA while Trump was POTUS, then it’s not Biden fault, it is the incompetent Trump who was sitting in WH and couldn’t run this own administration.
    • If Biden as Privat citizen who could control FBI , DOJ, CIA then it;’s not abuse of power, because Biden didn’t have power. It is pure incompetency of Trump.


    You keep saying Intelligent community spread disinformation. The article you provided , the article say those were FORMER intelligent employees, FORMER heads of CIA, Not current CIA director (Back in 2019-2020). If FORMER CIA director had more power then CIA Director Gina Haspel , then it was Incompetent Trump who was not doing his job.
     
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    Great proof, I posted proof that you all were mislead and here you are throwing flambaiting comments. This is the last I will respond to you on this subject.
     
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    If you know of any specific Russian disinformation regarding the laptop, please post it. I have heard plenty about Russian disinformation regarding the laptop but I have never heard a single scrap of specific data. Not one. All I have is deep state spooks saying that the Hunter Biden story is Russian disinformation. If something is a lie, the least you can do is provide evidence that the information is untrue AND provide evidence that the information was generated by the Russians.

    Here is your chance to convince people, please provide the evidence that the spooks and MSM refused to provide. If you do this, you will become God tier on PF. Here is your chance for internet warrior glory!


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    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/19/hunter-biden-story-russian-disinfo-430276
     
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    This is somehow news to you? And speaking of a real problem, is the guy in there now close to the "football".
     
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    Well , as you admit “logic escape you”, you can’t call others incompetent who is using logic to navigate through the ridiculous EC to make sure the right guy is in WH.
     
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    You haven't posted any proof.
     

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