GOP senators seethe as Trump blows up delicate immigration compromise

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  1. conservaliberal

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    We're well on our way to cultivating an enormous population of "mutant wastelanders" already. And remember, they can VOTE! :roach:

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  3. conservaliberal

    conservaliberal Well-Known Member

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    Yes! You're right! Geriatric Joe can start to reverse this disastrous mess with a 'pen-stroke'! Trump -- when he was "president" -- could have done it in exactly the same way, but he chose not to. What reason would we have to think that Trump would suddenly 'wake-up-in-a-new-world' and do anything different if he were elected again? I'd betcha' anything he'd be wanting to build even more of that worthless, laughable 'wall' instead of doing anything that would really FIX the problem....

    Are we who really love the United States of America the only ones who understand that one of the main reasons we even HAVE a military is to protect our country from invaders of all kinds? This is so basic, so elementary, and it's staggering to think that we're even dithering around with a crucially important issue like this. Seal the border shut to migration, round up illegals and criminals and get them the hell out of here! Can Biden do this? YES... TOMORROW MORNING! But will he...? It's an EMERGENCY situation!
     
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    You like Biden to give EO and close border and block migrant to come to USA.

    How about Biden use EO and give all 15 million undocumented immigrant US citizen, will that be ok with you?

    I bat it would not go well with you.

    Congress needs to address the immigration issue and compromise and come up with a policy which works for America.
     
  5. conservaliberal

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    What you suggest are two entirely different issues altogether. Apples and oranges... manure and vomit.

    What has giving 15 million aliens from other countries a citizenship in the U. S. got to do with an emergency national security moratorium on migration into this country? Oil and water. Biden can, with an Executive Order, seal the border shut to migration on a national security basis, but he can't just 'wave a magic wand' and confer American citizenship on 15 million citizens of foreign countries.

    *** The overall Democrat strategy to 'letting them in' (successfully practiced, on and off, since the late 1960's) is usually much more subtle than that, and like most stealthy poisons, it requires patience, persistence, and time. But the Democrats went 'nuts' during Obama's second term, jamming in way too many of them in much too short a period of time. Then, Idiot Trump did nothing effective to stop it, so, here we are.... ***

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    Well,indeed.

    BLM isn’t a big deal anymore. And, unlike the white nationalists, a lot of us never cowered in fear over it.
     
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    I posted this in one of the other dozen border threads spammed on here, but it belongs in this thread the most

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    The Oklahoma Republican Party approved a resolution on Saturday condemning and censuring Sen. James Lankford (R-Okla.) for his role as a chief negotiator in the Senate border security talks between Democrats and Republicans.

    The resolution, a copy of which was posted on X by state Sen. Dusty Deevers said, “Senator Lankford playing fast and loose with Democrats on our border policy not only disfranchises legal immigrants seeking citizenship but it also puts the safety and security of Americans in great danger.”

    “It is interesting, Republicans, four months ago, would not give funding for Ukraine, for Israel and for our southern border because we demanded changes in policy. So, we actually locked arms together and said, we’re not going to give money for this. We want a change in law,” he said on “Fox News Sunday.”

    And now, it’s interesting, a few months later, when we’re finally getting to the end, they’re like, oh, just kidding, I actually don’t want a change in law because of presidential election year,” he added.
    ENDSNIP

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/oklahoma-gop-votes-censure-lankford-201746882.html

    FFS... At least wait until his effort becomes law....

    Maybe MTG is correct?? You cannot run a country dealing with people like the Oklahome Republican Party
     
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    It’s not Apples and Oranges. It’s about which EO you agree and which you don’t. Since Obama , EO used to satisfy political extremist. Obama’s EO of Dream Act to satisfy the left , Trump’s EO “Remain in Mexico” to satisfy the right or Biden’s EO of student debt relief to satisfy the liberal.

    EO order will not solve the immigration problem in USA. Only congress can solve this issue but for congress to pass an immigration bill will need compromise from both side and neither side want to compromise.
     
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    All the sudden Biden was "doing something"? Lol. Kind of like Biden suddenly fighting for student loan debt again just to get the lemnings to vote for him? You can't seriously be this easily manipulated. Right?

    And, it gives you the opportunity to blame Trump?

    Biden hasn't done squat on the border for his entire administration, but suddenly Trump is preventing action? Give me a break.
     
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    EO can impose an answer till Congress gets off their ass and does their job.
     
  11. conservaliberal

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    I don't disagree with you -- BUT -- in the short-term, you asked me if I thought Biden could create an Exec. Order to close the border, and I said, "yes", based on national security. OK. Now you want to drag in all this stuff about EO's from the past? The emergency is NOW. The hundreds of thousands (perhaps millions of migrants of various kinds) are here NOW, and more are arriving every day! The need is for Biden to get up off his senile ass and DO something -- NOW. Or do you disagree with that?
     
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    He sent 1500 troops to the border following expiration of title 42, which he extended among other things.

    A presidency is 4 years, not 2 years. Can I say republicans dont care about the debt since they didn't do crap when they had all 3 chambers and thus dems should never negotiate to reduce the debt?
     
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    BLM matters. NFAC matters. All of these Black radical groups and their supporters among White Leftists matter. The next time they have a convenient, manipulated "George Floyd" incident to exploit, you'll see them out there -- just as before. They're like sharks! As soon as they sense 'blood in the water', they come out with teeth bared ready to devour everything they can....

    [​IMG]."FEED ME!"
     
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    Biden is doing what he wants, this is planned. I have a feeling that if he started going the EO route a lot of us wouldn't like it much.
     
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    He sent those troops down there to speed up the process, not to arrest or turn back the illegals.
     
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    Speed up what? They were there to supplement CBP so CBP can focus on processing, arresting or expelling migrants.
     
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    We have seen mass migration in the past. Only thing new is 24/7 news coverage.

    Congress had 40 years to fix this issue. Joe Biden didn’t open up border and caused any thing new.


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    Congress had 40 years to fix this issue. How many more years you think congress needs to get off their a$$?


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    Maybe we can't agree on what would constitute a fix so we get gridlock.
    The people here mostly vote and I doubt we could craft and pass a law here.
     
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    Right, to speed up the process.
     
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    Is the debt derail suppose to be transparent, lmfao :roflol:
     
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    Certainly you can derive a logical conclusion to that, I'm going with never...
     
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    Trump was able, under current laws and less funding, to keep illegal immigration to acceptable levels. This senate bill does nothing to control immigration and instead rolls over to accept illegal immigration up to 2 million per year.
     
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    In 2019 , when Trump was POTUS , 851 thousands undocumented immigrants crossed the border.

    That is acceptable level? Oh ok. That’s news to me. But now it makes sense why Trump is for open border policy. He wants acceptable undocumented immigrants 851 thousand comes to America every year.

    Go for OPEN BORDER TRUMP 2024.
     
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