GOP senators seethe as Trump blows up delicate immigration compromise

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  1. Heartburn

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    It wasn't Trump that stopped construction on the wall. What we see at the border today is not the result of trump policies.
     
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    The president doesn't need any legislation to enforce border laws, Trump secured the border just fine.

    The demokrat party is disgusting.
     
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    Are you saying Trump built the wall in southern border and Mexico paid for it?
     
  4. ButterBalls

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    That's why I posted this epiphany ;)

     
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  5. Endeavor

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    How could Trump secure the border without the “ Big Beautiful Border Wall”?
     
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    Actually the Governors are working on a constitutional mean to stop the INVASION..
     
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    Better than nothing..
     
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    I never voted for Trump and I never will.

    I agree with Biden most time. I will keep voting for Biden.
     
  9. Endeavor

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    but now Trump wants Open Border.
     
  10. Heartburn

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    Is that what you read?
     
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    You miss the point :(
     
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  12. Endeavor

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    I will ask the question again and see how many times you avoid answering the question.

    Did Trump build the wall and did Mexico pay for that wall?
     
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    Sad, people just allow themselves to bow to governments.. There are far more if us than them.. Once WE learn that we hold the power, then we will bring about real change..

    Until then, let's just continue to argue, look how well it done for us so far.
     
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    I agree , Trump always miss the point what America wants. Now he is for Open Border.
     
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    I am with you 100%. Let’s not vote for Trump, he will get the point.
     
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    If you say so..
     
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    And what's our alternative?

    No dodging ;)
     
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    The physical boundaries are often deployed at the most dangerous locations to cross the border because Texas has to keep fishing dead bodies out of the water. That's why the floating boundaries, for example, were deployed in certain spots. But Biden and liberals apparently don't care if people die while crossing the border and have no intention of funneling them to secured sections of the border where we can do some semblance of screening them. The more people that come in undetected the better, apparently. Sounds like a great idea for our national security.

    Also the Border Patrol has said they have no plans to carry out Biden's order to remove the wire and said this crisis is of his doing. They have said they will now work with the Texas National Guard to secure our border in opposition of Biden and will not pull rank and prevent Texas Guard from following lawful orders... such as placing razor wire and barriers. They will not remove the wire despite a SCOTUS ruling that they can and the Biden administration telling them to do so. Apparently they actually care about protecting our nation, unlike Biden's puppet masters and his supporters.

    It's crazy to me that the people who virtue signal the most on this issue completely ignore any attempt to reduce the rapes and deaths of migrants. Their go-to is to cry racism and authoritarianism whenever someone talks about anything that would have a measurable impact on such atrocities.
     
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    Why does this matter?
    Biden is trying to do something and Trump is foiling it so he can say Biden did nothing.
     
  20. Egoboy

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    It's not Biden's order to remove the wire.... It's this dysfunctional SCOTUS's

    Border Patrol will eventually remove or cut the wire... bet on it...

    I suggest a better use of this wire would be to put the Texas governor in his mansion and then put it up around that... major Napoleon complex going on here...
     
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    Biden can do something. The law currently allows him to take action that would have a great effect. I see no benefit of giving him more laws that he won't follow. That seems like the colloquial definition of insanity.
     
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    Bidens only doing something now in an election year ;)

    Up to this point he has
     
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    The decision says the Biden administration has the authority to remove the wire and Texas officials can't obstruct them from doing so. But, the Border Patrol union sided with Texas and has publicly said they will not help the Biden administration further deteriorate our national security and will not follow the order to remove the barrier.

    Yes, I know many liberals don't care about migrant deaths and rapes or national security. They're so virtuous to turn a blind eye to the atrocities their ideology is having. It's fortunate that the number of people who support the inaction of our government from preventing these atrocities is starting to decline. People who support this strongly in the minority and part of the fringe left.

    How many girls need to get raped before you support enforcing our laws? Do you measure that in the hundreds of thousands, millions, etc? At some point you must support ending the magnet that causes all these rapes, right? Or is there an unlimited acceptable number of rapes and drownings to protect oneself from the congnitive dissonance of their political views?
     
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    I fully support enforcing our laws, which doesn't currently include individual states doing their own version of border security.

    I also support Congress finally attempting to do something about this situation..

    The rest of your BS is just that...
     
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  25. Endeavor

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    I don’t know what is your alternative. Trump wants Open border and millions terrorist pour in the country and you want “secure border”.

    I , on the other hand , I like Biden policy. Not only his immigration policy but other policy. so I will vote for Biden.


    May be you should stay home and complain about how Trump changed his mind and became liberal on immigration.
     

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