Trump says he would encourage Russia to ‘do whatever the hell they want’ to any NATO country that do

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  1. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    so what's wrong with what Donald Trump said?
    So again there's nothing wrong with what Trump says?
     
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    I did not say he broke any deal. By “deals” you must mean the NATO treaty which a POTUS alone cannot “ break” it takes Congress to “break” as it takes Congress to agree to a treaty. Trump talks about paying dues to NATO. The only so-called dues to NATO are for administration costs and some other ancillary cost. The real crucial “ contributions” to NATO are that NATO members are required to spend a certain percent of Georgia GDP on military defense. Trump makes it sound to his cult followers that countries “pay ‘dues’” like to a country club. That is eaten up by his low information and the WGAS followers and rallies goers and those politicians without testicular fortitude who are afraid to be primaryed. There are things that a POTUS can do to sabotage NATO and Putin and NATO members know that. I know that there were and still are countries that have been slow to increase their military defense spending. Germany and some others have started increasing military defense spending since Russia invaded Ukraine. No thanks to Trump and his runaway mouth lies since obviously Trump was not in office at that time. Trump’s story about a country that asked if since they did not “pay” their “dues” and if Russia invades them will the U.S. defend them and of course Trump said no that Russia can do whatever it wants. Trump made that diareah Trump must mean that if /when the SUPREMES install him and kind emperor of the Americas. Of course I know that he will get re-elected and or steal the election so he will cause havoc and somehow cause us not to help stop Russia from consuming all of Europe. Trump gave Putin a woody with those words out of his mouth. The you get members to comply with spending the necessary GDP is to do it privately where you can threaten them without everyone in the world knowing it. When a POTUS candidate or the real POTUS do that in the open of course countries will get upset as Putin will get a woody and that happened.
     
  3. Polydectes

    Polydectes Well-Known Member

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    Please referring to the way they pay for their contribution to the military that they then pull resources and everyone knew that before you went off on this semantic tangent
     
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    You cherry picked that quote but as a Biden apologist I guess that's your job.
     
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    When?
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    You are very correct but Please my reply to heartburn .
     
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    There is no money changing hands.

    But Trump nation doesn’t understand that.

    Neither does Trump, who has repeatedly framed the idea as if NATO owed him personally. As a gangster running a protection racket would.

    And Trump uses attacking NATO (and all of our other allies) as a play to the parochial isolationists and the flat earth crowd.

    And they suck it up, as you can see here on this thread.
     
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    No, it was not.

    It was messenging aimed directly at Trump’s isolationist base. Another demonstration of Trump’s “ugly American” act.

    The world got the message, and roundly condemned your beloved fuhrer for it.

    As to your clearly false assertion that it was a warning to NATO allies of his intention to back Russia. It was an outright declaration of it.

    Trump already supports the Russian invastion of Ukraine.

    What is it with Trump losers???????

    Trump says disloyal and irresponsible things, and your excuse is to try and spin it away, or lie about it.

    Trump is well beyond the pale.

    He is no leader. Certainly not a world leader.
     
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    Trump will be the American leader when we elect him and America is and will continue to be the world leader.
     
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    My, my, my, how the left is so controlled by their media.
    I doubt they can get out of bed without a CNN command.

    Sorry to out you like this, but,

    Trumps EXACT words

    NATO was busted until I came along. I said everybody's going to pay. They said, Well, if we don't pay, are you still going to protect us?
    I said absolutely not. They couldn't believe the answer. I came in. I made a speech and I said, you gotta pay up.
    They asked me that question. One of the presidents of a big country stood up said, Well sir, if we don't pay and we're attacked by Russia,
    Will you protect us?
    I said you didn't pay, you're delinquent?
    He said yes, lets say that happened.
    No I would not protect you.
    In fact I would encourage them to do what ever the hell they want.


    I never made such a claim. Try again

    Just another leftist propaganda regurgitation.
    Or you can prove me wrong by showing me where Trump made that claim,
    But you won't, because you can't.

    No, the left just regurgitates so much BS, they just have no credibility to claim anything anymore
    Just like you will never provide anything showing Trump supports Russia invading Ukraine.
    You just picked it up from some extreme leftist and regurgitated it here.
     
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    Your sentence makes no sense.
     
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    If Russia did for example invade a country in the middle of Europe there
    wouldn't be much the US could do about it, and doubly so if the US
    was busy with another war or two or three at the time.

    Not that Russia would because Russia is busy with their build
    back better plan.
     
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    LOL. You brought up Biden, not me. I'm pulling for Haley

    Ol Joe living rent free in your head?
     
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    Where's he gonna go, Trump already has all the room in yours.
     
  15. Polydectes

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    You keep saying these things as though Trump is as incompetent as you.

    When you pay for military and that military is a pooled resource that's payment. It's not payment in currency but it's payment in value.

    Trump has a real estate empire he understands this. Your pathetic little semantic argument really just shows how Petty You Are and how incompetent you are.
     
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  16. Polydectes

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    Okay.

    Your argument based on your assumption that Donald Trump is as incompetent As You Are. When someone uses the word pay they aren't always strictly talking about currency.

    Donald Trump has a real estate business he understands this.

    Native nations may not pay directly with currency for you to make the boneheaded assumption that that's what he meant is just your dishonesty probably clouded by bigotry.
     
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    Why would you support Haley instead of Biden? Aren't they duplicates?
     
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    Whatever you say. LOL. I get it that its embarrassing to see your political leader say stupid stuff, but sometimes its better to just let it go as opposed to trying to defend the indefensible
     
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    I would rather he say stupid stuff than do stupid stuff.
     
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    We're opening new rigs here all the time. We drill it here, refine it here, sell it here. Great opportunities! Since it all done without crossing state lines, federal commerce laws largely don't apply.

    My ca doesn't run on natural gas. Neither does my washer/dryer, heat/air, lights, refrigerator, stove, or toaster.
     
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    Only if they don't pull their own weight. It's just a matter of choice.
     
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    Al Gore, Bernie Sanders, Stacey Abrams had to learn the Inconvenient Truth the hard way.

    “Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything.” Comrade Joseph Stalin
     
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    I suppose that means something to you?
     
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    Well, when you’re left shilling for Vladimir Putin’s objectives apparantly out of total devotion to a man who just announced that his intention to betray our allies, I guess you have to come up with something.

    After all, your beloved fuhrer tried to abruptly quit Afghanistan. But I guess you forgot about that.

    I have no idea what “paying off terrorists” is even supposed to mean.
     

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