1 dead and multiple injured in shooting following Chiefs Super Bowl parade

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  1. Bowerbird

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    And that is an acceptable reason for owning a gun
     
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    You build personal responsibility in and there will be fewer shooters
     
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    And research has shown that the kids most likely to be recruited to gangs are those with access to guns in the house
     
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    Anyone remember this?

    Trump announced the start of Operation Legend after a 4-year-old boy was shot in KC in 2002, federal assets were sent to many cities and over 1500 arrests were made, Biden ended it his first day in office.

    The program was described as a success by federal agents involved, with the FBI officially stating:

    Operation Legend was a coordinated effort with our local law enforcement and prosecutorial partners to aggressively investigate our most violent crimes. Despite the ongoing pandemic, over 6000 arrests were conducted at the local, state, and federal level nationwide, and over 2600 firearms seized. Though this operation was intended as a short-term surge of resources, our work does not stop here. Our mission to protect the American people is unending, and we will continue to build on this momentum going forward.[52]

    Operation Legend - Wikipedia
    Operation Legend — FBI
    Office of Public Affairs | Operation Legend Expanded to Cleveland, Detroit, and Milwaukee | United States Department of Justice
    FBI Agents and Resources Support Operation Legend in Nine Cities — FBI
    Operation Legend puts focus on violent crime, not politics | AP News
     
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    same with gun control but the death penalty does prevent recidivism by the person executed which means it is slightly more effective as crime control than Democrat gun control laws
     
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    that's not true and I suspect you know it, Blacks and Latino youth are most likely to join gangs yet white families are the most likely to have legal guns
    https://nationalgangcenter.ojp.gov/...the,predominate among documented gang members.

    Across all area types, the majority of law enforcement agencies report that African-American/black and/or Hispanic/Latino individuals predominate among documented gangs

    https://www.pewresearch.org/short-r...of adults living in,and Asian (10%) Americans.

    your claims are destroyed by these facts

    • 47% of adults living in rural areas report personally owning a firearm, as do smaller shares of those who live in suburbs (30%) or urban areas (20%).
    • 38% of White Americans own a gun, compared with smaller shares of Black (24%), Hispanic (20%) and Asian (10%) Americans.
     
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    That's funny. Me and my brother grew up with six guns in the house and neither one of us ever even thought about a gang. I'm sure other things play a much bigger Factor.

    Like growing up in a poverty ridden Democrat City full of lawlessness
     
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    When somebody gets injured in a shooting, who pays the medical bills?

    - asking for a friend.
     
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    Another friend asked if gang bangers are being fined by the IRS for not having health insurance.
     
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    In one comparatively rare instance of a shooter in England the person
    was rushed from behind and brought down.

    Any injuries are of course handled by the National Health Service like
    any other injury or health issue.

    Spending the next decade or two paying off an injury would be a good
    disincentive for getting into any altercation over here I suspect.
     
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    I spent an hour researching her claim. It has no support. there are lots of reasons why kids join gangs-low self esteem, broken families, low intelligence or academic achievement, tolerance or support for illicit drug use, disfunctional neighborhoods, minority status, poverty, etc. gun access-especially legal gun access was not even mentioned
     
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    And fear of other gangs, and boredom, nothing to do.

    The job you might all have is being done in some other country.

    Thanks to neo-liberalism.
     
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    You posted a picture of Europe and American states dramatically proving the link between diversity and homicide rates. The least diverse states have the lowest homicide rates and the least diverse European countries have the lowest homicide rates. The only reason that we get upset is that you post the truth and don't understand it. The most startlingly part of your graph is Sweden. For centuries it was the most peaceful of European countries. It had a heaping dose of diversity in the past 30 years and now it has a dropped down a peg. Give it a decade or two more and it will have a homicide rate comparable to Mississippi.

    Given that diversity is rushing into Europe at a genocidal rate, the days of progressives comparing Europe to America in a favorable way will be coming to an end within a decade or two.

    This is really very very simple. Guns do not kill people. Diverse populations with no social cohesion and no adhesion to the majority culture do at rates around 10x that of the indigenous culture. Ban all the guns you like, it will not change reality. Reality is that this problem cannot be fixed. Reality is you are safer in a homogenous middle class community. You know that as well as I do. That is why you live in a community that looks very much like the one I live in. These crime rates you cry about don't affect you just as much as they don't affect me. If progressives get their way, communities like ours will no longer exist. They will ship in high crime diversity into every single one of our neighborhoods and use our tax dollars to do it. Then it truly will be our problem and also time to start looking for another country to live in.
     
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    I think the entire goal of the anti gun movement is to get rid of as many shooters as possible because people who no longer own guns are no longer going to have that issue to shape how they vote
     
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    You know who has a thing against black people.
    It is well known through out this forum.

    They post pics of blacks in handcuffs or similar in order to derail threads about things not black as was done in this thread.
     
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    Oh, those poor black people, how will they ever recover from the trauma of having pics of them posted on a website? Maybe put more of them in commercials or Disney and Netflix movies? Why do you think they're so fragile? White saviorism? Anyway, thoughts and prayers for the people in pics who are in handcuffs.

    The best advice I can give anyone, regardless of color, is if you don't want a pic of you in handcuffs published in the news and then posted on a forum, then don't do things that will put you in handcuffs.

    And bleeding hearts should be more concerned about criminals and their victims than the people who talk about them.
     
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    Fortunately the reality is just that dems want people to have a problem with black people. So much so that mentioning them is inherently viewed as racist by the left.

    People aren't falling for that anymore.
     
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    Thats because they aren't related. The left just really really wants them to be.
     
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    note my signature!!
     
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    It prevents that particular person from committing more crimes. I do agree with you though that it needs to be speedier.
     
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    And if they are innocent? Is it not better to find more effective ways of dealing with the issue I.e interventions that actually work?
     
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    I do not disagree with the statement - just have a different view of which side is being dishonest lols!
     
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    Oh,Oh! oh! How can it be tolerated! Seeing pictures of “black” people on TV!
     
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    except the factual imbalance is amazing. we have the following constantly being spewed by the anti gun left. This board, the news and facebook are all full of them

    1) AR 15s are "weapons of war"
    2) AR 15s have no use for hunting
    3) "you don't need 100 rounds for hunting" (you don't need a ping pong paddle to row a shell either)
    4) Most mass shootings involve AR 15s
    5) most of the NRA's funds come from gun makers


    and of course the biggest one of all-those who disobey the consequences of committing mass murder will somehow obey gun control laws
     
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    I don't think any of the people involved in the Chiefs shootings had legal guns in lawless Chicago.
     
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